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Dubas best worse Draft sign trades

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Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2023
Published: Jun. 1, 2023
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Outgoing Leaf GM Dubas.

Best Drafted:
Sandin, Knies
Worse:
Stotts, Amirov

Best UFA signings:
Jarnkrok, Spezza, Samsonov
Worse:
Ritchie, Mrazek, J.T.

Best trades:
Campbell/Clifford, McCabe/Lafferty. Giordano/Blackwell
Worse:
Marleau, Foligno, Malgin

Edit note:

I had Marner, Dermott, Bracco Draft picks in the best and worse positions but have since removed them; as many have mentioned, even though Dubas goes down as the intern GM in 2015 history, it was Mark Hunter, the head of scouting, who made the final call that summer.
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Stotts, Riley
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Blackwell, Colin
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:50 p.m.
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Tavares was a bad signing? Wow that’s a weird take.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:52 p.m.
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Yo you should do Chuck and Pens Hextall
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.
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Yeah you of all people would put the kid who got brain cancer as a bad draft pick
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.
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Tavares was a bad signing? Wow that’s a weird take.


Just think of the domino effect it had:

All 5 young guns (MNM, Kappy and Johnsson) contracts were altered because of JT.
Tons of UFA's and trades were forced because of the overpay on JT.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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Yeah you of all people would put the kid who got brain cancer as a bad draft pick


Nope, that wasn't even factored in, Amirov was always considered from day one, as a long term project.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:56 p.m.
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Yo you should do Chuck and Pens Hextall


Lol Ron’s reign of terror would be ugly to see in one place
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:56 p.m.
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Nope, that wasn't even factored in, Amirov was always considered from day one, as a long term project.


Then you don't know puck.

But we already knew that
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:58 p.m.
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Then you don't know puck.

But we already knew that


WRONG.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:00 p.m.
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It was Lou that signed Marleau (at Babcock's begging). Murray has to be included in the worse trades.
Don't know how the Giordano/Blackwell trade can considered good.....Two seconds, and a third at TDL and no play round wins.
McCabe and Lafferty for first and second? McCabe was dreadful in the Florida series and Laffetry just another 4th liner. Another waste of young assets
Leafs gave a 1st/2nd/3rd/and 4th rounders to get ROR and Accarli for one playoff round win. I don't know how that can considered good.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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Dermott was a decent pick. He was a second round pick and has played quite a few NHL games. That's more than most 2nd round picks. It's unfair to judge Amirov as a bad pick. The kid has brain cancer. I wouldn't place that at Dubas's feet.

In best signings you are missing Kampf, Brodie and Bunting. I disagree that Spezza and Jarnkrok are better signing then those 3. (although they are good signings as well)

In worse trades you are missing the Kadri trade and I am putting the Sandin trade in there also. I disliked those 2 trades the day of. I didn't like the Malgin trade either (the day of) but those 2 are worse.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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It was Lou that signed Marleau (at Babcock's begging). Murray has to be included in the worse trades.
Don't know how the Giordano/Blackwell trade can considered good.....Two seconds, and a third at TDL and no play round wins.
McCabe and Lafferty for first and second? McCabe was dreadful in the Florida series and Laffetry just another 4th liner. Another waste of young assets
Leafs gave a 1st/2nd/3rd/and 4th rounders to get ROR and Accarli for one playoff round win. I don't know how that can considered good.


We all know the rental trades Dubas made reeked of desperation but for a Cup wannabe they are what they must be.

Obviously with me stating JT signing was bad, I would have at least let Marleau's contract play out, rather than trade him with a 1st Rd pick bribe.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Just think of the domino effect it had:

All 5 young guns (MNM, Kappy and Johnsson) contracts were altered because of JT.
Tons of UFA's and trades were forced because of the overpay on JT.


Kapanen and Johnsson didn't end up taking that next step anyways. You also do realize that there was no way he could have predicted that there was going to be a flat cap for 3 or however many years it has been.

If you look at the contract alone, 11M for a ufa PPG C in his prime to play in Toronto isn't an overpay at all.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
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Dermott was a decent pick. He was a second round pick and has played quite a few NHL games. That's more than most 2nd round picks. It's unfair to judge Amirov as a bad pick. The kid has brain cancer. I wouldn't place that at Dubas's feet.

In best signings you are missing Kampf, Brodie and Bunting. I disagree that Spezza and Jarnkrok are better signing then those 3. (although they are good signings as well)

In worse trades you are missing the Kadri trade and I am putting the Sandin trade in there also. I disliked those 2 trades the day of. I didn't like the Malgin trade either (the day of) but those 2 are worse.


Brodie is a good player, but $5 million is probably fair market value so its hard to say it was a knockout. Same goes for Kampf, he got a fair market value contract. I forgot about Bunting, he goes in the Top 3.

As for Dermott, his legacy is attached to Aho, the player picked right after him.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Marner wasnt really a Dubas pick he was Lou/Hunters pick

Dubas picks start with Sandin
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Dubas did not draft Marner. Hunter did under Lou.

The Kadri and Marchment trades were pretty bad. But the Sandin one will be the worst.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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Kapanen and Johnsson didn't end up taking that next step anyways. You also do realize that there was no way he could have predicted that there was going to be a flat cap for 3 or however many years it has been.

If you look at the contract alone, 11M for a ufa PPG C in his prime to play in Toronto isn't an overpay at all.


It was a sign of weakness for all the other player agents to exploit and we saw Nylander hold out and Mathews and Marner get super rich SHORT term deals, which another GM probably would have done better with.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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Marner wasnt really a Dubas pick he was Lou/Hunters pick

Dubas picks start with Sandin


Fair trade off, Hunter wanted Marner and Dermott, we all got stuck hearing about the legend that Dubas wanted Aho instead of Dermott. I don't who Dubas wanted with the 2015 1st Rd'er, probably an American or Euro/Russian player, or a super small player, since that was his fetish.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.
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Yeah you of all people would put the kid who got brain cancer as a bad draft pick


Leafs fans truly are a different breed…
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
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Leafs fans truly are a different breed…


Not Leafs fans. Bagheads
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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Dubas did not draft Marner. Hunter did under Lou.

The Kadri and Marchment trades were pretty bad. But the Sandin one will be the worst.


Kerfoot and Barrie were serviceable players.

I view the Sandin trade as a sideways deal, Sandin a former 1st Rd pick, traded for a future 1st Rd pick.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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Leafs fans truly are a different breed…


Leaf fans/media/commentators were all wanted B. Schneider to get Drafted by the Leafs that year.

Dubas picks Amirov instead.

Goes down in history like Dermott getting selected before Aho, Dubas swears up and down he wanted Aho, Hunter vetoed it and used the pick for Dermott.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:29 p.m.
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Kerfoot and Barrie were serviceable players.

I view the Sandin trade as a sideways deal, Sandin a former 1st Rd pick, traded for a future 1st Rd pick.


Kadri was and should have been the ideal 3rd line center for this charmin soft group. A former first that panned out and is still young. You’re betting that the scouting staff hits another home run.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:29 p.m.
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Kerfoot and Barrie were serviceable players.

I view the Sandin trade as a sideways deal, Sandin a former 1st Rd pick, traded for a future 1st Rd pick.


I am on the unpopular side of liking the sandin trade. Long-term it doesn’t work to have Sandin and Rielly to both play top 4 minutes. This draft is also insanely deep. We can easily find a player that will project to be better than Sandin.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:33 p.m.
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Dermott was a decent draft choice, although when Sebastian Aho is drafted right after him it looks pretty bad on Dubas. Tavares is an excellent player but a bad signing for the situation it put them in, a cash strapped team that handcuffed itself even more so with that 11 million cap hit, and yeah Kadri was suspended several times but was a much cheaper option at 2C and the Leafs could of spent more on the backend and some depth scoring. I was hoping the Leafs were going to draft Braden Schneider in 2020 makes sense to be on that bottom pair d, and is the type of toughness they need, however, Amirov had more talent upside and nothing you can do about a guy getting cancer. Campbell trade was fantastic, others even for ROR I'm really skeptical of. Marchment trade a joke. Alot of high draft picks for a team that has only gotten to the second round. The Sandin, Knies, Niemela draft all look pretty solid so far... wait and see how Sandin plays out in Washington, could backfire big time.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
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Kadri was and should have been the ideal 3rd line center for this charmin soft group. A former first that panned out and is still young. You’re betting that the scouting staff hits another home run.


Actually Kadri and Marner should have stayed together as the 2nd line and J.T. never should have been signed.

J.T. money could have been spent more wisely.
 
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