Taking useful dumps

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Created by: Anus_McLeod

Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2023

Published: Jun. 7, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

A variation on stuff I have done in the past (mainly just different trade compensation).

Basically the Avs get Granlund, Mantha, and Foote for pretty much nothing (the end result for all intents and purposes is they exchange the Colorado 2025 3rd for the Washington 2025 4th).

Next year gets really tough if Landeskog comes back, but there are levers to pull if needed. And I hate to say it, but I don't think the team can bank on him returning at this point.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Foote, Cal	2	$875,000
Meyers, Ben	2	$800,000
Newhook, Alex	2	$2,000,000
Byram, Bowen	3	$4,250,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Cogliano, Andrew	1	$850,000
Toews, Jonathan	1	$2,000,000
Johnson, Erik	1	$800,000

Trades

COL

Granlund, Mikael
2024 2nd round pick (PIT)

PIT

COL

Foote, Cal [RFA Rights]

NSH

2025 3rd round pick (COL)

COL

Mantha, Anthony ($2,850,000 retained)
2025 4th round pick (WSH)

WSH

2024 2nd round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Maybe Washington throws one of their 2024 3rds to a team in exchange for some of the retention. Depends on how they want to handle it.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$80,572,500	$637,500	$57,500	$2,927,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Mantha, Anthony $0$0 LW, RW UFA - 1	MacKinnon, Nathan $12,600,000$12,600,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Rantanen, Mikko $9,250,000$9,250,000 RW, C M-NTC UFA - 2
Lehkonen, Artturi $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 4	Toews, Jonathan $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA	Nichushkin, Valeri $6,125,000$6,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 7
Newhook, Alex $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Granlund, Mikael $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Foudy, Jean-Luc $847,500$847,500 ($57,500$58K) C RFA - 2
Cogliano, Andrew $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Meyers, Ben $800,000$800,000 LW, C UFA - 1	O'Connor, Logan $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Byram, Bowen $4,250,000$4,250,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Makar, Cale $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 4	Georgiev, Alexandar $3,400,000$3,400,000 G UFA - 2
Toews, Devon $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD UFA - 1	Manson, Josh $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Francouz, Pavel $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Foote, Cal $875,000$875,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
MacDermid, Kurtis $987,500$987,500 LD/RD, LW UFA - 1		Landeskog, Gabriel $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 6
Johnson, Erik $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.

mesteur

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Pens would be happy with that.

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.

hudsonsux

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If you want 50% retained you gotta give more than a 2nd for him and a 4th

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: mesteur

Pens would be happy with that.

Thanks, I think so too. It's a reasonable price to correct a mistake imo. Colorado would have to hope they don't end up in the same boat, but I think there's a reasonably decent chance Granlund bounces back.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.

AvsFanatic96_01_22

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This is the way.

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: hudsonsux

If you want 50% retained you gotta give more than a 2nd for him and a 4th

Maybe, but keep in mind that a third team would take some or all of the retention. Basically the Caps gain a little bit on the asset side but dump most or all of the salary.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.

swissmontana

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yeah this rules. Granlund is on the 2nd line for me, but that's ticky tacky. and tbh there are plenty of other options that aren't mantha on the wing if that doesn't work, either.

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: swissmontana

yeah this rules. Granlund is on the 2nd line for me, but that's ticky tacky. and tbh there are plenty of other options that aren't mantha on the wing if that doesn't work, either.

I thought about putting Granlund at 2C, but I like the defensive prowess that line has with Toews. With his defensive ability and 60ish percent rate at the dot, this line would be a huge pain in the arse for the oppositions best players.

Glad you like the team though. I thought this was a good one as well.

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.

swissmontana

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

what is a line with the avs, anyway

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.

bcooke

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Would be curious if a 3rd party would retain on Granlund for a 4th in '24 or '25. Think Newhook, Meyers, and Cogs may all get a little more.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.

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futurebobmckenzie

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In what world are the Penguins doing this? Granlund has a cheap buyout price. Why would we give up a lottery pick in the best draft we’ve had in years especially when we have no good prospects? None of it makes sense whatsoever.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.

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futurebobmckenzie

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Quoting: mesteur

Pens would be happy with that.

They are the furthest from it. They laugh and hang up.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.

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futurebobmckenzie

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

This makes no sense for the Penguins to do. Ron Hextall isn’t our GM anymore. Granlund is a cheap buyout. But yeah it makes a lot of sense to give up a lottery pick to trade him. For sure.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.

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Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: futurebobmckenzie

This makes no sense for the Penguins to do. Ron Hextall isn’t our GM anymore. Granlund is a cheap buyout. But yeah it makes a lot of sense to give up a lottery pick to trade him. For sure.

A lottery pick? It's a second rounder for a team that has every expectation of being in the playoffs. Unless they are planning on trading Crosby and Malkin, I don't know how you assume this is some valuable lottery pick. Put conditions on it if needed though I guess.

In terms of the buyout number, it's not terrible. But I think it's preferable to lose a second than to pay Granlund not to play for the next four year, even if it's not a huge figure.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.

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futurebobmckenzie

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

holy sh*t i can’t ready i swear that was a first rounder when
i saw this

Jun. 7, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.

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Quoting: futurebobmckenzie

holy sh*t i can’t ready i swear that was a first rounder when
i saw this

I promise you that it was always a 2nd. I didn't edit it.

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 2:43 p.m.

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futurebobmckenzie

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

I promise you that it was always a 2nd. I didn't edit it.

I apologize for going off like I did, I see way too many ACGM teams taking our first to “dump” granlund

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.

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I'd be happy enough with most of that bar the obvious broken 2C.

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 7:28 p.m.

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Quoting: TJTwolf

I'd be happy enough with most of that bar the obvious broken 2C.

Yeah yeah yeah

I really like this one though. And all for the cost of basically nothing. It's a deep team.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:26 p.m.

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TJTwolf

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Yeah yeah yeah

I really like this one though. And all for the cost of basically nothing. It's a deep team.

Tbf though it's hard to see who else you could really add that could do a job at 2C for that money and at least we aren't giving up the assets we would have at the TDL last year for him.

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Jun. 8, 2023 at 4:41 a.m.

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TheLaosMonster

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Love the Cal Foote trade.

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