BOLD but soft rebuild

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Created by: McJoe7

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: May 25, 2023

Published: Jun. 7, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Hot take, the Flames should have rebuilt last season. They have put themselves in an awful spot long term with awful contracts all over the roster which WILL hurt them in terms of re-signing their other good players. The most fun, most bold move I think Conroy could make would be to escape that Huberdeau contract. It hasn’t kicked in yet and it has 8 more years at 10.5 million. There’s literally 0 chance he lives up to that and he may NEVER have a season worth that. If they can get someone to take it, that would be crazy and bold, so that was my starting point.

Trades

CGY

MTL

Huberdeau, Jonathan ($1,000,000 retained)

CGY

Roslovic, Jack
Svozil, Stanislav
2023 1st round pick (LAK)
2024 1st round pick (CBJ)

Additional Details:

2024 1st is conditional on Columbus making the playoffs or re-signing Lindholm

CBJ

Lindholm, Elias

CGY

BUF

Vladar, Daniel

CGY

Boeser, Brock

VAN

Toffoli, Tyler
2024 2nd round pick (CGY)

CGY

McGroarty, Rutger [Reserve List]
2023 3rd round pick (WPG)

WPG

Tanev, Christopher ($1,500,000 retained)

CGY

2023 2nd round pick (FLA)
2024 4th round pick (FLA)

FLA

Zadorov, Nikita

CGY

BOS

Roslovic, Jack

Buyouts

Eric Comrie: $600,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Jonathan Huberdeau: $1,000,000 (9.52%)
Christopher Tanev: $1,500,000 (133.33%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$76,564,999	$0	$1,077,500	$6,935,001

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Mangiapane, Andrew $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 2
Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Zary, Connor $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, C RFA - 2	Coronato, Matthew $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW RFA - 2
Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Rooney, Kevin $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 1	Pelletier, Jakob $863,333$863,333 LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Grzelcyk, Matt $3,687,500$3,687,500 LD UFA - 1	Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 3	Wolf, Dustin $813,333$813,333 ($15,000$15K) G RFA - 1
Gilbert, Dennis $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1	Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Reilly, Mike $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Ruzicka, Adam $762,500$762,500 LW, C UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 2

	Andersson, R.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

Lsendel3

Joined: Feb. 2020

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Vlader goes for around a 3rd, not a former first doing well as AHL rookie in both the reg and post season,

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.

BUFF36

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Very soft, Buffalo declines

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:43 p.m.

Maleskualex

Alex M

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why would Calgary do the Vancouver trade? worried about how much Toffoli is gonna cost?

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:43 p.m.

BorisBagel

Boris Bagel

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Habs pass on that long term cap hit
Better off keeping Anderson

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.

WPGSK

Joined: Jun. 2023

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McGroarty for Tanev???? hhahahaha and you want a draft pick on top of McGroarty??? hahahahah

NO!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.

Campabee

Joined: Nov. 2018

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I was going to decline the Flames/Habs trade cause we would miss Anderson's style of play but if we made this trade andtraded Kidney the Panthers 1st and a 3rd for PLD then the lineup would be very interesting to say the least.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.

jets12

Passionate Jets fan

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no chance from winnipeg

i would suggest giving Huberdeau another shot with a different coach

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.

jonh514

HuGo is a Boss GM

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As a Habs fan and a Hubbie fan, I would like to see Huberdeau with the team. I would say that if you can get him down to around 8M/year the Habs could make that work. How do you feel about retaining 2.5M instead of 1M?

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.

McJoe7

Thread Starter

Joined: Oct. 2020

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Likes: 22

Quoting: Maleskualex

why would Calgary do the Vancouver trade? worried about how much Toffoli is gonna cost?

Toffoli is a pending UFA in his 30s, coming off a career year who was in Vancouver before. Boeser is 26(I think) and has way more upside, Flames can take a chance on a bounce back and keep him or flip him.

Quoting: BorisBagel

Habs pass on that long term cap hit
Better off keeping Anderson

You're probably right. If the Flames pivoted and moved Huberdeau, thats their only shot I think.

Quoting: jets12

no chance from winnipeg

i would suggest giving Huberdeau another shot with a different coach

This is their only chance to move Huberdeau I think if they want to move him. His chances of living up to that deal are 0. He's already 30 and he's 10.5 for 8 more years. 2022 was 23 points over his previous career high and like 40 over his second best season. He vastly overperformed and then the Flames paid him like he did that every year. That contract isn't good now and its going to be REALLY bad in 2-3 years, not to mention the other 5-6 years on the end of it. If the Flames can entice the Habs to take it, they should.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.

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McJoe7

Thread Starter

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Quoting: jonh514

That feels like a lot to retain for 8 years but I bet you could split the difference. If I was running the Flames, I'd be trading him so I would probably do it, but I doubt they would want to eat that much for that long.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.

#11

jonh514

HuGo is a Boss GM

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Habs would be lucky to get an Anderson & Dvorak for Huberdeau deal done with 2M retained.

Habs get better during the 1st 4 years, Habs maybe get worse for 4 years when Hubbie declines a bit, but the rising cap should more than cover it.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.

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Ajp_18

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Columbus trade is impossible, pick conditions can’t be based on players resigning and Columbus already traded the 2023 LAK 1st yesterday for Proverov.

Jun. 7, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.

#13

sabres89

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What is going on with people asking for the moon for goalies? That's not the market, nobody is paying that.

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