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Another take of the rebuild

Created by: Boozerelli
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 10, 2023
Published: Jun. 11, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$2,500,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$4,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Deangelo, Anthony ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (EDM)
2.
3.
PHI
  1. Lucius, Cruz [Reserve List]
  2. Robidas, Justin
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
CAR
  1. Hart, Carter
  2. Lycksell, Olle
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (FLA)
4.
PHI
  1. Boqvist, Adam
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (LAK)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($3,142,857 retained)
5.
PHI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
TOR
  1. Sandström, Felix
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (LAK)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$77,892,024$1,187,500$70,000$5,607,976
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$825,000$825,000 (Performance Bonus$37,500$38K)
C, LW
RFA - 2

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Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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If it’s Boqvist and a 3rd, you’re retaining half.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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That is almost half. Easily done to make it work
Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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I could see the Canes being interested in Hart, but I’m not sure they like that price. And why does Staal even consider signing with the Flyers? He has said he wants to finish his career in Carolina, and with how important he is to the Canes, there is little chance of him making it to July 1st without an extension.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:53 a.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
I could see the Canes being interested in Hart, but I’m not sure they like that price. And why does Staal even consider signing with the Flyers? He has said he wants to finish his career in Carolina, and with how important he is to the Canes, there is little chance of him making it to July 1st without an extension.


I’m not trying to be rude and it’s totally fair if you don’t like the price but that price quite literally isn’t good enough for Hart let alone Hart and Olle. It’s a late 1st, our own 2nd, and two mid prospects. It’s already been reported the Flyers are looking for way more than that
Jun. 11, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
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Poitras had a very good year and from what I've read the bruins org is very high on him, we aren't trading him for a depth defenseman.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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I’m not trying to be rude and it’s totally fair if you don’t like the price but that price quite literally isn’t good enough for Hart let alone Hart and Olle. It’s a late 1st, our own 2nd, and two mid prospects. It’s already been reported the Flyers are looking for way more than that


You need to do some research into Robidas. He's REALLY come alive this most recent season. He's certainly more than a mid prospect. He was the best player on the Quebec Ramparts team that went to the Memorial Cup this year. He's also younger than Lycksell and is just a better prospect to have.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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Carolina is probably the last team looking for a goalie. They already have their choice of 3 guys they can bring back, and two are already better than Hart and Kochetkov is somewhat psychotic so I'm not going to tell him he isn't better than Hart.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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You need to do some research into Robidas. He's REALLY come alive this most recent season. He's certainly more than a mid prospect. He was the best player on the Quebec Ramparts team that went to the Memorial Cup this year. He's also younger than Lycksell and is just a better prospect to have.


I don't think Robidas would crack the Flyer's top-10 prospects and he doesn't have enough marginal value for PHI to make this trade. The raw value might be fair but don't think this moves the needle
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
You need to do some research into Robidas. He's REALLY come alive this most recent season. He's certainly more than a mid prospect. He was the best player on the Quebec Ramparts team that went to the Memorial Cup this year. He's also younger than Lycksell and is just a better prospect to have.


He’s at a PPG in a junior league, so are loads of other prospects. He is nothing special
Jun. 11, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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I don't think Robidas would crack the Flyer's top-10 prospects and he doesn't have enough marginal value for PHI to make this trade. The raw value might be fair but don't think this moves the needle


No he wouldn’t
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
I don't think Robidas would crack the Flyer's top-10 prospects and he doesn't have enough marginal value for PHI to make this trade. The raw value might be fair but don't think this moves the needle


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He’s at a PPG in a junior league, so are loads of other prospects. He is nothing special


Majorly disagree with both of these. He wasn't just a point per game, he was well over it. That was despite playing on an awful Val-dOr Foreurs team for more than half of the season. He then went to Quebec and was still a different level.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Majorly disagree with both of these. He wasn't just a point per game, he was well over it. That was despite playing on an awful Val-dOr Foreurs team for more than half of the season. He then went to Quebec and was still a different level.


It’s still a junior league and we have a handful of prospects with similar stats in those leagues and higher
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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Majorly disagree with both of these. He wasn't just a point per game, he was well over it. That was despite playing on an awful Val-dOr Foreurs team for more than half of the season. He then went to Quebec and was still a different level.


I don't really care about points for a 20 year old still playing junior. He's probably a similar value to JR Avon or any other depth prospect the Flyers have. They aren't going to move TK for a bottom-six maximum caliber player. They have plenty of those on the team and in the system
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:10 p.m.
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It’s still a junior league and we have a handful of prospects with similar stats in those leagues and higher


Not that were over a point per game in the memorial cup, were averaging 1.5 PPG in the QMJHL postseason, and has the experience of growing up in an NHL locker room (he's Stephane's son). That's what I'm trying to say. He's already proven himself as a clutch performer
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
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yea Bruins aren't trading Poitras for a 6/7th dman
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
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I don't really care about points for a 20 year old still playing junior. He's probably a similar value to JR Avon or any other depth prospect the Flyers have. They aren't going to move TK for a bottom-six maximum caliber player. They have plenty of those on the team and in the system


You really called Robidas a bottom six caliber player. That's comical. Let's ignore the fact he's been a PPG for 2 years in junior. He's a clutch postseason performer, he's got incredible hand-eye, he's a great play maker, he's got a lethal shot... stop it. He's clearly got top 6 upside.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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You really called Robidas a bottom six caliber player. That's comical. Let's ignore the fact he's been a PPG for 2 years in junior. He's a clutch postseason performer, he's got incredible hand-eye, he's a great play maker, he's got a lethal shot... stop it. He's clearly got top 6 upside.


Yeah I don’t see it but happy for you that you do lol
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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You really called Robidas a bottom six caliber player. That's comical. Let's ignore the fact he's been a PPG for 2 years in junior. He's a clutch postseason performer, he's got incredible hand-eye, he's a great play maker, he's got a lethal shot... stop it. He's clearly got top 6 upside.


Yeah I don't really care about points as the exact driver for prospect value and I'm not going to go 12 rounds with a guy who criminally overrates CAR prospects. You said Morrow had better upside than Cale Makar based on his UMass numbers so I'm not holding my breath on Robidas.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Hart isn’t worth the asking price.

Now if we want to do a

Hart, Laughton, and Seeler for Drury, Gunler, our 1st and Philly’s 24. 2nd. We’ll say Hart is worth a first but its a stretch that he is. His numbers don’t support it but the market sucks so we’ll reach some
 
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