if Nylander doesnt want to sign I understand if WSH says no

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Created by: AyyPavy

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2023

Published: Jun. 14, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya		2	$3,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Acciari, Noel	2	$1,750,000
Schenn, Luke	2	$1,500,000
Graves, Ryan	4	$4,850,000
O'Reilly, Ryan	5	$4,500,000
Sheary, Conor	2	$1,800,000

Trades

TOR

WSH

Nylander, William
2024 1st round pick (TOR)

TOR

Goodrow, Barclay ($1,820,833 retained)
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)

NYR

TOR

Toronto aquires Goodrow from New York along with a second. Toronto send the second to Arizona to get 50% retention on Goodrow. It’s a win for all teams.

ARI

2024 2nd round pick (NYR)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$82,832,418	$0	$0	$667,582

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
McMichael, Connor $863,333$863,333 LW, C RFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Sheary, Conor $1,800,000$1,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	O'Reilly, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 C UFA - 4	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Lafferty, Sam $1,150,000$1,150,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 1	Goodrow, Barclay $1,820,834$1,820,834 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Acciari, Noel $1,750,000$1,750,000 C, RW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Schenn, Luke $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Samsonov, Ilya $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan $4,850,000$4,850,000 LD UFA - 6	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Jun. 14, 2023 at 5:39 p.m.

Pompadour_de_Armstrong

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I would think AZ isn't interested in tying up another retention slot (OEL) long-term. Plus the seven or eight million real dollars. Doesn't seem like an AZ move.

Jun. 14, 2023 at 5:39 p.m.

AyyPavy

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Quoting: Pompadour_de_Armstrong

I would think AZ isn't interested in tying up another retention slot (OEL) long-term. Plus the seven or eight million real dollars. Doesn't seem like an AZ move.

okok maybe CHI?

Jun. 14, 2023 at 5:40 p.m.

NARC311

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Caps accept

Jun. 14, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.

GoofyFoFoofy

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that's a lot to ask of the Rangers for Goodrow. Rangers either find a taker for him that asks for a 3rd rounder or less, or they just buy him out.

Jun. 14, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.

bwhsocal

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Dont see AZ doing 4 yrs retention, only have 1 slot for 4 years left (OEL has 1 slot), plus a 2nd is prolly fair but they have 4x 2 nds already in '24. prolly another team bites as the 3rd in the trade

Jun. 14, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.

Onlyfairtrades1

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Rangers don't even consider that absurd Goodrow trade. Retention plus a 2nd round pick for nothing is pure nonsense. Be way cheaper to just buy him out.

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Jun. 14, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.

AyyPavy

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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1

Rangers don't even consider that absurd Goodrow trade. Retention plus a 2nd round pick for nothing is pure nonsense. Be way cheaper to just buy him out.

You didn’t read it. They give him for a 2nd and flipped the 2nd to ARI for retention. idk what the cost of a buyout is.

Jun. 14, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.

Onlyfairtrades1

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Quoting: AyyPavy

You didn’t read it. They give him for a 2nd and flipped the 2nd to ARI for retention. idk what the cost of a buyout is.

The Rangers trade Goodrow and a 2nd for nothing, and that's a win for the Rangers? LOL. Goodrow won't be that hard to move plus the buy out is always an option along with keeping him.

Jun. 14, 2023 at 9:47 p.m.

AyyPavy

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leaf fan

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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1

The Rangers trade Goodrow and a 2nd for nothing, and that's a win for the Rangers? LOL. Goodrow won't be that hard to move plus the buy out is always an option along with keeping him.

Yes he will. A 4th liner making 3.6 mil. ur not getting rid of him easy. A 2nd isn’t bad at all.

Jun. 14, 2023 at 9:49 p.m.

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Onlyfairtrades1

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Quoting: AyyPavy

Yes he will. A 4th liner making 3.6 mil. ur not getting rid of him easy. A 2nd isn’t bad at all.

Your opinion and I disagree. Option 1 is keeping him anyway and it just depends on the cost to get the RFA's signed,

Jun. 14, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.

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Newtown

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Nylander > Wilson
1st > McMichael who has struggled and found himself in the minors even when Washington desperately needed help.

Jun. 14, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.

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perrystreett

Always have 2018

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Quoting: Newtown

Nylander > Wilson
1st > McMichael who has struggled and found himself in the minors even when Washington desperately needed help.

I agree with the above mostly but McMichael played well when he was in the lineup. Lavi was just allergic to playing youth. He’ll have a full time role this season

Jun. 14, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.

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AyyPavy

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Quoting: perrystreett

I agree with the above mostly but McMichael played well when he was in the lineup. Lavi was just allergic to playing youth. He’ll have a full time role this season

Yes but Wilson is deemed as a unicorn player

Jun. 14, 2023 at 10:22 p.m.

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perrystreett

Always have 2018

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Quoting: AyyPavy

Yes but Wilson is deemed as a unicorn player

Nylander is obviously the better player but Wilson is unique and the caps have no reason to move him so i agree that his value is at least the same as Nylanders if not higher

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Jun. 15, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.

#15

GM69

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NYR aren't giving up a 2nd rounder with a player they can buyout for free the next two years

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