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Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2023
Published: Jun. 16, 2023
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Now that the dust has settled on the end of the season a bit, here is my take on the current roster and moves we need to make, many of which are contrary to some of the other proposed teams I've put together.

Signed Forwards: The only true trade targets are Turbo and Drury. Drury is a no brainer, he wants out, and he's easy to replace with guys in the system or by resigning MacEachern

Turbo is tougher, but to me it's undeniable, he's declining. His contract isn't terrible, but is a bit of an overpay. I'd trade him for picks and use the salary on signing a goal scorer either through trade or FA.

Necas is super frustrating, but at $3m, we can afford to wait another year for him to be a key performer in the playoffs. But if someone is willing to trade a true star....I'd listen, but I don't see that happening. As frustrating as he is, the production per $ is hard to beat...worth one more year.

I've seen Jarvis included in trade proposals, but I'm a big believer in him....he actually played well in the playoffs, is getting more physical and I think just committed to being great...especially when it counts the most.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,435,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
1$2,000,000
5$6,250,000
2$4,000,000
Offer Sheets
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PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Miller, K'Andre$6,435,000
2024 1st round pick
2024 3rd round pick
Trades
CAR
  1. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
DET
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Teräväinen, Teuvo
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$72,873,584$450,000$520,000$10,626,416
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Svechnikov, Andrei
$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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Aho, Sebastian
$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
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Jarvis, Seth
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 7
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Necas, Martin
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Martinook, Jordan
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Staal, Jordan
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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Fast, Jesper
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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Noesen, Stefan
$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptPonomarev, Vasili
$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C
RFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptRees, Jamieson
$839,167$839,167
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Burns, Brent
$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Andersen, Frederik
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Kochetkov, Pyotr
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 4
Miller, K'Andre
$6,435,000$6,435,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Chatfield, Jalen
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:18 a.m.
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Swap turbo with Pesce
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:19 a.m.
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Okay, did we learn nothing from the KK offersheet? You don't sign a multiyear deal. You sign a 1 year deal overpaying the player to get the guy. Long term, the Rangers can just match this, and ship Goodrow out.

That Bertuzzi deal is an anchor waiting to happen/. Awful idea.

I don't hate the Teuvo trade. Would prefer to get that done before the draft and get a 1st this year, but fine. It still makes the roster worse than it is right now, but I understand it.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:19 a.m.
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Detroit is not the team for this
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Swap turbo with Pesce


That's comical. Pesce would need Detroits 1st this year. Not Boston's next year
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:20 a.m.
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Okay, did we learn nothing from the KK offersheet? You don't sign a multiyear deal. You sign a 1 year deal overpaying the player to get the guy. Long term, the Rangers can just match this, and ship Goodrow out.

That Bertuzzi deal is an anchor waiting to happen/. Awful idea.

I don't hate the Teuvo trade. Would prefer to get that done before the draft and get a 1st this year, but fine. It still makes the roster worse than it is right now, but I understand it.


Yeah I agree with him for once lol
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:21 a.m.
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That's comical. Pesce would need Detroits 1st this year. Not Boston's next year


Well turbo isn't worth a first from us. Pesce would be the only player we would be interested in if we are moving a first. Also I don't think he's worth our first this year either.
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Okay, did we learn nothing from the KK offersheet? You don't sign a multiyear deal. You sign a 1 year deal overpaying the player to get the guy. Long term, the Rangers can just match this, and ship Goodrow out.

That Bertuzzi deal is an anchor waiting to happen/. Awful idea.

I don't hate the Teuvo trade. Would prefer to get that done before the draft and get a 1st this year, but fine. It still makes the roster worse than it is right now, but I understand it.



The Miller deal all depends on what NYR can match. So yes, like I said, you may have to go to the next level of comp and sign to a 1-2 yr deal....but I already said that.

We just disagree on Tuzzi, I think he'll be worth that no problem...especially in the playoffs. you're not a believer, ok.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Well turbo isn't worth a first from us. Pesce would be the only player we would be interested in if we are moving a first. Also I don't think he's worth our first this year either.


It's a late 1st a year from now for a half-a-point-per-game forward that is excellent defensively and has 70+ point upside... he's returning minimum a 1st. Not the point.

Oh, and Pesce would require Detroit's 1st this year if he's dealt before or at the draft. Otherwise, you're looking at high-quality prospects like Edvinsson. Core pieces of cup-contending D cores are not on the market for spare parts.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:27 a.m.
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The Miller deal all depends on what NYR can match. So yes, like I said, you may have to go to the next level of comp and sign to a 1-2 yr deal....but I already said that.

We just disagree on Tuzzi, I think he'll be worth that no problem...especially in the playoffs. you're not a believer, ok.


I think you're delusional truthfully on Bert. He played 7 games and was eh on the best team ever as they lost to Florida. If that's what you're getting him for, steer well clear. Martinook had 10 points in the Devil series. You think he's worth 6.25 a year? He's a little older, but he's not got the same injury issues.

Miller would have to be a 1 year deal at a much higher cap hit
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:31 a.m.
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Don’t really get this. If you’re OS Miller, it would make sense to move Skjei since you def wouldn’t be extending him at that point. I also don’t think that OS actually works unless your true target is Laf when rags match that deal.

You also didn’t really do much with that extra cap space which seems like a wasted opportunity. There’s no reason to dump turbo if you’re not using the cap somewhere else. Why not just keep him as your own rental and hope he bounces back in a contract year?
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:38 a.m.
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That's comical. Pesce would need Detroits 1st this year. Not Boston's next year


Think any Pesce to DET arguments are moot (I love this word).

Assuming he hits the trade block, I don't think Yzerman would be interested in getting into a bidding battle with Buffalo.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
It's a late 1st a year from now for a half-a-point-per-game forward that is excellent defensively and has 70+ point upside... he's returning minimum a 1st. Not the point.

Oh, and Pesce would require Detroit's 1st this year if he's dealt before or at the draft. Otherwise, you're looking at high-quality prospects like Edvinsson. Core pieces of cup-contending D cores are not on the market for spare parts.


Also, many of us think that Bostons' pick will be in the teens' because of their tight cap-situation, and assuming they lose both Bergeron and Krejci.

I'm going to ignore the Edvinsson for Pesce proposal for my own sanity grin.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:42 a.m.
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Think any Pesce to DET arguments are moot (I love this word).

Assuming he hits the trade block, I don't think Yzerman would be interested in getting into a bidding battle with Buffalo.


He would be a great add but I agree that Buffalo has more buying power than we do. Especially since supposedly he is worth our first this year or Edvinsson. 🙄
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
He would be a great add but I agree that Buffalo has more buying power than we do. Especially since supposedly he is worth our first this year or Edvinsson. 🙄


Yeah. That part I disagree on.
I think he's closer to 17 + the lower of the two 1sts next year; but draft picks won't interest the Canes.
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:44 a.m.
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Also, many of us think that Bostons' pick will be in the teens' because of their tight cap-situation, and assuming they lose both Bergeron and Krejci.

I'm going to ignore the Edvinsson for Pesce proposal for my own sanity grin.


I doubt that. They'll still have that defensive unit, Marchand, Pastrnak etc. They're going to be worse, but they're going to get worse from being the best team ever. They're still probably a wild card team at worst
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:45 a.m.
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Yeah. That part I disagree on.
I think he's closer to 17 + the lower of the two 1sts next year; but draft picks won't interest the Canes.


Honestly I think it would be a Berggren type of player they want back or a replacement defenceman which we don't have. I honestly don't see us affording him at this point yet.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
I doubt that. They'll still have that defensive unit, Marchand, Pastrnak etc. They're going to be worse, but they're going to get worse from being the best team ever. They're still probably a wild card team at worst


Wild card teams are 17-20, no? I do agree that they'll be wildcard; but I think they'll end up getting crushed -- just losing too much and, barring the depth becomes crazy good, they don't really have any pieces that can just turn godly, such as Bobrovsky did.
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Honestly I think it would be a Berggren type of player they want back or a replacement defenceman which we don't have. I honestly don't see us affording him at this point yet.


I can see us affording his tag -- just not worth it to us. They'll unrealistically want Kasper, Edvinsson, or more realistically they'll want Mazur, Berggren, Wallinder, Buchelnikov, Soderblom.

I wouldn't be opposed, but I don't think it'll be worth it since Buffalo will probably drive up the price.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:49 a.m.
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Wild card teams are 17-20, no? I do agree that they'll be wildcard; but I think they'll end up getting crushed -- just losing too much and, barring the depth becomes crazy good, they don't really have any pieces that can just turn godly, such as Bobrovsky did.


Not always. In theory, you could have a wildcard team finish 8th in the NHL, meaning by default they'd have 24th overall. Obviously, that would drop to 22 with the WCF teams. But that also ignores a possible Bruins deep run. You just never know.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:50 a.m.
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I can see us affording his tag -- just not worth it to us. They'll unrealistically want Kasper, Edvinsson, or more realistically they'll want Mazur, Berggren, Wallinder, Buchelnikov, Soderblom.

I wouldn't be opposed, but I don't think it'll be worth it since Buffalo will probably drive up the price.


I think teams like Buffalo and Ottawa, who are a little more desperate to get to the playoffs, will definitely outbid us. I honestly think best case scenario is we go for Tanev but we likely don't get him either.
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:53 a.m.
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That's comical. Pesce would need Detroits 1st this year. Not Boston's next year


Thats comical. Brett Pesce is not worth a top 10 pick.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.
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Not always. In theory, you could have a wildcard team finish 8th in the NHL, meaning by default they'd have 24th overall. Obviously, that would drop to 22 with the WCF teams. But that also ignores a possible Bruins deep run. You just never know.


You never know that's true; but I'm betting on a sub 20-pick.
I don't think they'll be able to compete with Toronto, Buffalo, Ottawa (assuming they fix their back-end problems in the off season), and maybe Tampa -- I think a W.C. team is most definitely the safest bet.

I can see them winning the 1st round assuming Buffalo/Ottawa tops the division, which is unlikely in itself, but not impossible. I think that if they play either of these two teams; they'll win just through experience itself.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:56 a.m.
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Thats comical. Brett Pesce is not worth a top 10 pick.


Maybe not at face value but you're competiting with several other teams who need a good RD. A team such as Buffalo could reasonably outbid Detroit without batting an eye.

That said, I don't think we should give 9OA at all.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 8:58 a.m.
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Thats comical. Brett Pesce is not worth a top 10 pick.


That's comical. He is indeed
Jun. 16, 2023 at 9:00 a.m.
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You never know that's true; but I'm betting on a sub 20-pick.
I don't think they'll be able to compete with Toronto, Buffalo, Ottawa (assuming they fix their back-end problems in the off season), and maybe Tampa -- I think a W.C. team is most definitely the safest bet.

I can see them winning the 1st round assuming Buffalo/Ottawa tops the division, which is unlikely in itself, but not impossible. I think that if they play either of these two teams; they'll win just through experience itself.


I can't see them dropping below 3rd. Buffalo's goaltending and defense is maybe worse than Ottawa's and Ottawa's is garbage too. You could argue Florida, but that's so unpredicatble. I still think Boston cakewalk into 3 in the Atlantic
 
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