Creative 3way Dubois trade

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Created by: Blazingbat11

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 20, 2023

Published: Jun. 20, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Before I begin, please note this is a just the general terms of the deal that is proposed here. Minor assets can be added to even out a few kinks.

So here’s the breakdown:

The Jets get:

- Dylan Strome
(Cheveldayoff makes the best out of a bad situation and swaps PLD for Strome, who is only 1 year older than Dubois, scored 65pts last season, and most importantly is signed LONG term at a reasonable cap hit at $5mil AAV.)

The Capitals get:

- 5th overall pick
- 31st overall pick
- Riley Kidney
- Christian Dvorak
(The Caps get the Dubois “package deal” but for Strome that most people agree is fair market value for Dubois, but doesn’t fit the Jets needs. The Caps restock their prospect cupboards even further, and get to move up to 5th overall to select Michkov)

The Habs get:

- Pierre-Luc Dubois
- 8th overall pick
(Habs get to pay the “package deal” that the Jets don’t want, but is still fair market value. The cost of bringing in a third team is moving down 3 spots in the draft from 5th to 8th. Habs draft Ryan Leonard, who was their main target anyways. )

For those who will argue “why don’t the Caps just trade for Dubois, 1 for 1 with Strome?” Well, Washington probably isn’t on PLDs list of teams he would sign long term with, and they are being compensated by moving up in the draft from 8th to 5th overall.

Again, maybe a few pieces can be added to even things out, but at that point they would be minor pieces.

Trades

MTL

Strome, Dylan
2023 1st round pick (WSH)

WSH

Dvorak, Christian
Kidney, Riley
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 1st round pick (MTL)

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

Read description for 3-way trade breakdown explanation

WPG

Strome, Dylan

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
19	$83,500,000	$63,274,166	$1,170,000	$4,195,000	$20,225,834

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.

DRW2025

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What??? LOL

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.

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Caps pass as they are trying to remain competitive. Strome is a key part of that, is on a very good contract, and do not have anyone to replace him.

Could replace Strome with Kuzy, but I doubt that is something as exciting

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.

GuyGuyGuy

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Habs pass

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.

F50marco

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Your deal is assuming WASH wants Dvorak+Kidney+31OV for Strome. I don't think they do.

Appreciate the effort but realistically, WSH can get both Michkov and NOT trade Strome at the same time which is the preferred situation from what I'd expect. There really isn't a need to include Strome in this 3 way. If WPG wants ready now players, they simply ship out the picks and prospects they received in the MTL deal to get them. Simply trade 5ov to Wash for 8ov+ and send MTL package to WPG and then they can deal with attempting to do what ever it is they think they should be doing.

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:13 p.m.

Blazingbat11

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Habs pass

To be honest, I’m not that much of a fan of the deal either.

Habs and Jets are just not good trade partners, and this is the best I can think of about bringing in a 3rd team in to make PLD to MTL work. But I’m more convinced then ever that PLD to MTL just isn’t happening.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.

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There's no reason for Winnipeg to do that. There appear to be better offers out there.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

I really hope he doesn’t come. He is so selfish. Hope he goes to Toronto

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.

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Quoting: F50marco

Yup I agree, see my previous reply to another post.

To further your point. If the Jets simply take the “package deal” and try to flip them, a Strome type player would be the guy they would be after, which circles back to “would the caps be interested in a package deal for Strome?” Which they probably aren’t. That’s why I was hoping moving to 5th overall could be an incentive.
Perhaps you can argue Hughes can leverage that if the caps don’t move up for Michkov, Habs will trade down with another team (Maybe DET?) so the select Michkov.
But yeah, too many moving parts at that point, which again makes me think even more that PLD to MTL just doesn’t work.

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:27 p.m.

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

At the end of the day Wash wants Michkov. They could easily trade up to ensure they get him earlier if they think a team is willing.

As for PLD, all these rumours are so hard to know. All i know is we'll know soon enough. If PLD isn't a Hab by the end of the draft he either won't ever be or the Habs will have to try and sign him as a UFA. I've always just hoped they'd just sign him as a UFA anyway.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:29 p.m.

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Edited Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.

Quoting: Windjammer

There's no reason for Winnipeg to do that. There appear to be better offers out there.

Jets would take Strome 1 for 1 for PLD instantly if it was offered. Be serious…

If you’re buying into the PLD to LA rumours, I have my doubts. The kings refused to trade their top prospects for Chychrun at the trade deadline, what makes you think they suddenly change their mind for Dubois??? And Chychrun was a far greater need for the Kings than Dubois is now.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.

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Hell no. Strome unavailable

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.

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Strome isn't moving any time soon lol, we JUST locked him up long term

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.

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Maybe Washington is not the right trading partner but I find quite interesting the idea of involving a 3rd team in the transaction. Kudos for the creativity.

Would Philly be a better partner? I'm asking the question to the universe.

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.

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Quoting: F50marco

I don’t see how easily the caps could trade up for Michkov, especially if the Habs are open to trading down with other teams to select him. But that’s all just speculation.

100% it would in the Habs best interest to just wait and get Dubois as a UFA…but with the information we do have, I think it’s clear MTL is #1 on PLDs list of teams he wishes to sign with, but he’s tired of waiting, and is willing to go elsewhere if the Habs don’t step up.
I think it would be nice to have him, but I’m also completely ok with him not coming lol

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Jets would take Strome 1 for 1 for PLD instantly if it was offered. Be serious…

If you’re buying into the PLD to LA rumours, I have my doubts. The kings refused to trade their top prospects for Chychrun at the trade deadline, what’s makes you think they suddenly change their mind for Dubois??? And Chychrun was a far greater need for the Kings than Dubois is now.

5 years of an older downgrade isn't really tempting, imo.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.

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Quoting: perrystreett

Hell no. Strome unavailable

Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan

Strome isn't moving any time soon lol, we JUST locked him up long term

Humor me for a sec, if we could assume Michkov WILL be selected at 5th overall (by either the Habs or another team who trades up for him), would this deal be more palpable? Knowing that Michkov will gone by 8th overall. Again, this is a pure hypothetical.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

I mean, I'm sure the Caps would entertain the call. But of all the guys on the roster, Strome is probably only behind Ovi, Backstrom, Kuemper, and Sandin as most unlikely to move. Value-wise I think you're good, but realistically, Strome is a no-go

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

I echo what was said above by boring bmac. Only way i think this happens is if Michkov says I’m coming now if it’s DC and caps add an expensive winger where they need to dump cap and Michkov wants Kuzy.

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