One More Year in Suckville

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Created by: HabsRafiki

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2023

Published: Jun. 22, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Habs clean house and go deep in the 2023 draft, with an eye to being in the lottery again in 2024 (and maybe 2025).

Rationale behind trades:

1) Pittsburgh has narrow window to cash in on Crosby and Malkin. Dvorak offers a solid two-way middle-6 forward at just over $2M and Harris solidifies an aging D corps and helps with future rebuild.

2) Seattle gets Anderson, a strong, fast, hard-hitting RW for four years at $4M. Helps them battle Vegas, Kings and other bruisers in the West.

3) Anaheim trades down from #2 to #5, but gets #14 and Mesar, last year's #26 pick and Montreal's top prospect as well.

Drouin, who finished the season well at centre, gets another look. If all goes well, he, Gurianov and/or Monahan can be moved at the trade deadline.

Habs draft:
2 -- Fantilli (and puts an end to the PLD madness)
20 -- Best of Danielson, But or Honzek
31 -- Seeking fallen angels here, but looking to take a D (Simashev, Bonk, Molledyk) or Hrabel (G)
33 -- Hrabel or BPA
37 -- BPA

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	2	$950,000
Ylönen, Jesse	2	$1,150,000
Gurianov, Denis	2	$2,250,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Allard, Frédéric		2	$800,000
Drouin, Jonathan		1	$2,500,000

Trades

MTL

Poulin, Samuel
2023 1st round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Sam Poulin's future is in doubt, but perhaps being back home would be good for his mental health.

The pick is #14

PIT

Dvorak, Christian ($2,225,000 retained)
Harris, Jordan
2024 2nd round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

The Pens have Granlund and Carter as their #3 and #4 centres, with Poehling as the spare. Dvorak (at $2.25M) is a significant upgrade on Poehling and offers some much-needed depth if the Pens are going to push into the playoffs.

The Pens' LHD is old, with Ruutta, Dumoulin and Petterson. Harris is a solid prospect to have in place while they await the arrival of Beliveau and Pickering.

MTL

Driedger, Chris
2023 1st round pick (SEA)

Additional Details:

Driedger is buried in the minors.

Seattle pick is #20

SEA

Anderson, Josh ($1,500,000 retained)
2023 3rd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Anderson gives Kraken a big RW for divisional games against the likes of Vegas and Kings.

MTL

2023 7th round pick (STL)

STL

Wideman, Chris

Additional Details:

Hoping Wideman will be welcomed home to his hometown.

MTL

2023 7th round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

San Jose take Hoffman for the purposes of getting Karlsson to waive his no-trade clause.

SJS

Hoffman, Mike ($1,500,000 retained)

MTL

2023 1st round pick (ANA)
2023 2nd round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

Picks #2 and #33

ANA

Mesar, Filip
2023 1st round pick (MTL)
2023 1st round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Picks #5 and #14

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Christian Dvorak: $2,225,000 (50%)
Josh Anderson: $1,500,000 (27.27%)
Mike Hoffman: $1,500,000 (33.33%)

Buried

Chris Driedger: $2,350,000 ($3,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$67,521,666	$1,170,000	$4,210,000	$15,978,334

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3	Gurianov, Denis $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $950,000$950,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Drouin, Jonathan $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Ylönen, Jesse $1,150,000$1,150,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean $1,985,000$1,985,000 ($15,000$15K) C, LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
		Poulin, Samuel $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 1

Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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Insulting us trying to get Fantilli AND 33OA huh?

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.

HabsRafiki

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Insulting us trying to get Fantilli AND 33OA huh?

For 5,14 and a top-50 NHL prospect? I wish someone would insult me so nicely.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.

Subbanator7667

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Habs aren't retaining on contracts with term.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.

matthias893

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"Additional Details:
San Jose take Hoffman for the purposes of getting Karlsson to waive his no-trade clause."

loooool

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.

Tennisman142

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Blues have plenty of bottom pairing defensemen. We need to move some to make room for our prospects

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.

Salzy

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Quoting: HabsRafiki

For 5,14 and a top-50 NHL prospect? I wish someone would insult me so nicely.

If its so valuable you can keep it lmao

Not even enough for just 2

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.

KrakenTheCode

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Huh. First time I've seen someone float a Josh-Anderson-to-Seattle trade, so kudos for at least trying something new.

At this point I don't know what fair value for Anderson is; no one can seem to agree on it, so I'll set that aside for now. I don't think Seattle goes for this, mainly because their forward group is so deep that adding someone like Anderson just isn't a pressing need. If they do trade a first round pick for someone it'll likely be for a top-four defenseman or a player with more goalscoring punch.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.

Jded

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Easy decline from ANA. Drop 33OA and I’m still not sure I’d take it

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.

xercuses

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Edited Jun. 22, 2023 at 7:51 p.m.

Cant see the blues doing it rn

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.

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HabsRafiki

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Habs aren't retaining on contracts with term.

I think Hughes' obsession with not taking back parts of some of the lousy contracts Bergevin left him is weird. He should do what he can to clean house. Eating a couple of years of Devo's contract or even a fraction of Anderson makes sense if it nets a decent return. The sooner we turn the page on Bergevin's madness, the better.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.

#11

HabsRafiki

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Quoting: matthias893

"Additional Details:
San Jose take Hoffman for the purposes of getting Karlsson to waive his no-trade clause."

loooool

Glad you liked it.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.

#12

HabsRafiki

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Quoting: Tennisman142

Blues have plenty of bottom pairing defensemen. We need to move some to make room for our prospects

I get it, but Wideman is cheap depth. Obviously, if the Blues don't want him, there's probably someone with a spare 7th (or stick bag) willing to have him.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.

#13

HabsRafiki

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Quoting: Salzy

If its so valuable you can keep it lmao

Not even enough for just 2

Makes sense if Verbeek were at all tempted by Michkov, but we have no idea what the scouts are telling him.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.

#14

HabsRafiki

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Quoting: KrakenTheCode

I looked at is as Eberle and Bjorkstrand are small and play small. No one is getting by Vegas unless they can match them in the trenches. Eberle is also getting older and slower, so Anderson gives them something they don't have.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.

#15

Subbanator7667

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Quoting: HabsRafiki

Need those spots for Hoffman, Armia and Eddy. Plus, Anderson doesn't need retention to get a good return and Dvorak is young enough you can keep him on the team as injury insurance

Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.

#16

Tennisman142

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Quoting: HabsRafiki

I get it, but Wideman is cheap depth. Obviously, if the Blues don't want him, there's probably someone with a spare 7th (or stick bag) willing to have him.

Yeah the blues have Rosen, Perunovich, Tucker, Bortuzzo trying to get the 7th and 8th D man spots. We gotta give time to our younger guys Tucker and Perunovich

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.

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HabsRafiki

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Need those spots for Hoffman, Armia and Eddy. Plus, Anderson doesn't need retention to get a good return and Dvorak is young enough you can keep him on the team as injury insurance

I went back and forth on retaining for Anderson, but in the end thought it worth doing to remove a big hurdle for Seattle fans. If the Habs are going to be garbage for another year or two, they might as well get value for Dvorak and let Drouin and Monahan fill that third or fourth centre role, along with Jake Evans. Meanwhile, the Pens' window is closing soon, so Dvorak would be helpful to them this year.

Jun. 22, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.

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xercuses

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Quoting: xercuses

Cant see the blues doing it rn

Cant*

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