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Created by: OldNYIfan

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 19, 2023

Published: Jun. 23, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Just curious -- do knowledgeable Toronto fans think that Max Domi and Noah Hanifin would be good fits for the Maple Leafs? Domi is a free agent but might cost more; Hanifin is a rental and Toronto is giving up #28 overall and two good prospects for one season of him.

Hanifin precludes re-signing Ryan O'Reilly because I think ROR is going to get $5 million or more.

An option from this roster is to keep Murray and trade Samsonov for a good pick in the 2023 draft.

I didn't bother re-signing RFA prospects whom I don't expect to be on the main roster.

This is clearly a "win-now" approach because the prospect pool is shallow and there isn't much draft capital. Personally, I think that the Boston first is far more valuable than the Toronto 2024 first, but I doubt that Calgary would be willing to take the latter for Hanifin.

I'm going with an 8-defenseman framework because I think that's prudent in light of the veteran injury risk, particularly Brodie, Giordano and Schenn.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya		3	$4,000,000
Holmberg, Pontus		2	$900,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Domi, Max	3	$3,333,333
Kämpf, David	4	$1,750,000
Acciari, Noel	3	$1,500,000
Schenn, Luke	3	$1,500,000

Trades

TOR

Hanifin, Noah
2023 4th round pick (CGY)
2024 4th round pick (CGY)

CGY

Minten, Fraser
Niemelä, Topi
2023 1st round pick (BOS)

Buyouts

Matt Murray: $687,500

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$79,786,450	$0	$0	$3,713,550

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Domi, Max $3,333,333$3,333,333 C, RW UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Kämpf, David $1,750,000$1,750,000 C UFA - 4	Acciari, Noel $1,500,000$1,500,000 C, RW UFA - 3
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Holmberg, Pontus $900,000$900,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Lafferty, Sam $1,150,000$1,150,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 1
Steeves, Alex $834,167$834,167 LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $4,000,000$4,000,000 G UFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Schenn, Luke $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1

Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.

Anson2002

Joined: Jul. 2019

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What's up with Muzzin is his career done?

Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.

Leafsleaks123

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I think that’s a big overpay for Hanifin especially if it’s without an extension. I also don’t think Domi is a great fit but that would be a good contract.

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Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.

palhal

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Not all all to the Leafs. Niemela is projected to be a long term RHD. Minten is the Leafs only centre prospect. and you want include a first.
Just sign a good UFA for 4.95m.

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Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: Anson2002

What's up with Muzzin is his career done?

Looks like it. Neck injury.

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Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.

LeafsFanForSomeReason

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I'm sure Hanifin would be fine, that price is a hard no for me though, especially as a rental.

I could take or leave Domi at that number.

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Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.

MitchJr

Joined: Jan. 2023

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Too high a price to acquire Hanifin but he’d be a good fit. I‘m biased and may be wrong but I think the Leafs could extend him (he’s American but Toronto & the Leafs are still a location of choice for most guys). I also like Domi at <$4M, but wonder if he’ll get more. Strangely enough, Leafs need offense and Domi - while may have issues in his own end - produces points

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Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:44 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Leafsleaks123

I think that’s a big overpay for Hanifin especially if it’s without an extension. I also don’t think Domi is a great fit but that would be a good contract.

Quoting: palhal

Not all all to the Leafs. Niemela is projected to be a long term RHD. Minten is the Leafs only centre prospect. and you want include a first.
Just sign a good UFA for 4.95m.

Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

I'm sure Hanifin would be fine, that price is a hard no for me though, especially as a rental.

I could take or leave Domi at that number.

Quoting: MitchJr

Thanks for the feedback, guys!

Make sure to check my companion posting (I haven't seen whether you have yet).

Jun. 23, 2023 at 9:51 p.m.

GladeBang12

Joined: Sep. 2022

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Strictly based on fit, Hanifin has pretty much been the dream player I want us to acquire. Everything about him is perfect for what we need and what we will need. I’m confident we could workout an extension if we acquired him. Having said that, I’d be pretty reluctant to give up minten. He’s pretty much our only centre prospect. That’s not to say a deal can’t be done. IMO there’s other prospects in our system that hold equal value to other teams across the league that we could include instead (Voit, Grebyonkin, etc.).

I was pretty high on Domi a month ago. But realistically he’s going to cost much more and the more I thought about it, the less I wanted him. Theoretically, he would work really well as our 2C, between Tavares and Marner/Nylander. But I think the contract will look really bad and he’s just too much of a liability defensively. A lot of people peg Domi as a winger for this reason, but history shows that he actually excels the most offensively when he plays centre, which is why he’s such a risky player.

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Jun. 23, 2023 at 11:25 p.m.

DougieGilmour

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Someone is going to overpay Domi. I’d also rather not use those assets for Hanafin who we really don’t need.

Jun. 23, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.

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OldNYIfan

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Quoting: GladeBang12

Quoting: DougieGilmour

Someone is going to overpay Domi. I’d also rather not use those assets for Hanafin who we really don’t need.

Thanks for the input, guys! I appreciate it.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with everyone that Domi is a bad idea for the Maple Leafs. Have a great weekend!

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