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Let me see your best offers for Hayes with even more retention

Created by: mokumboi
Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 27, 2023
Published: Jun. 27, 2023
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Step right up, ladies and gentlemen and livestock of all ages!! Make an offer!!
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    Just picked Carolina because they're among the teams who might be interested in a middle 6 C who can score. Anybody can play the offer game!
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    1. Hayes, Kevin ($1,250,000 retained)
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    18$83,500,000$77,243,333$20,000$0$6,256,667
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $5,800,000$5,800,000
    LW, RW, C
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    UFA - 2
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    $8,125,000$8,125,000
    C, RW
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    $8,125,000$8,125,000
    RW
    UFA - 8
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $2,625,000$2,625,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $835,833$835,833
    LW, RW
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    $775,000$775,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LD
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    UFA - 4
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    G
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    UFA - 4
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    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LD
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    UFA - 3
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 7
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    $3,275,000$3,275,000
    LD
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    UFA - 1
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    $950,000$950,000
    RD
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    $762,500$762,500
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:30 p.m.
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    Player values are all over the place. I genuinely have no idea anymore.
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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
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    2027 7th round pick
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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
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    considering what he got half retained... maybe a 4th 💀
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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: fullblowncaniac90
    considering what he got half retained... maybe a 4th 💀


    Gonna need to do considerably better. The Flyers situation and the Blues situation are very different. We don;t need to shed him and a 4th doesn't even pay for the retention.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ennis
    Player values are all over the place. I genuinely have no idea anymore.


    Not really. One needs to take the team situation into account, and people forget to do that a lot.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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    Not really. One needs to take the team situation into account, and people forget to do that a lot.


    2025 5TH
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
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    Hayes isnt a center anymore, pass.

    if we wanted Hayes we would have paid the 6th rounder for him
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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ennis
    2025 5TH


    Nope. Try harder.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: ecupirate07
    Hayes isnt a center anymore, pass.

    if we wanted Hayes we would have paid the 6th rounder for him


    Who says you were ever offered him?
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
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    Nope. Try harder.


    Fine. A 2024 5th.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Who says you were ever offered him?


    who says he didnt offer him up to other teams to get better than a 6th round return?
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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:57 p.m.
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    Half the salary, double the return:

    Two 6th rounders
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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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    We're used to being "any team"
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    Jun. 27, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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    Yeah I don't see the blues moving Hayes right away.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: ecupirate07
    who says he didnt offer him up to other teams to get better than a 6th round return?


    I didn't say anything either way, but I certainly would not assume everyone else had a bite at the apple.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: tetrablues33
    Yeah I don't see the blues moving Hayes right away.


    I don't, either. But I want to cover all bases. Ya never know when another GM wants to be a dummy.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 6:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Gonna need to do considerably better. The Flyers situation and the Blues situation are very different. We don;t need to shed him and a 4th doesn't even pay for the retention.


    Quoting: mokumboi
    Not really. One needs to take the team situation into account, and people forget to do that a lot.


    Flyers wanted to move him but they also didn’t need to move him so not sure I really get that logic. They certainly weren’t in a rush and clearly by the interest in Hayes this is the best they could do so they decided to bite the bullet.

    What do you think he’ll fetch? I can’t see anybody going for more than a third but you seem to think he’ll return more based on your responses.
    Jun. 27, 2023 at 7:30 p.m.
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    Edited Jun. 27, 2023 at 7:35 p.m.
    Quoting: vikhodush
    Flyers wanted to move him but they also didn’t need to move him so not sure I really get that logic. They certainly weren’t in a rush and clearly by the interest in Hayes this is the best they could do so they decided to bite the bullet.

    What do you think he’ll fetch? I can’t see anybody going for more than a third but you seem to think he’ll return more based on your responses.


    Nah, I actually went in thinking a 3rd would be about the absolute max... but you never know around here. tears of joy

    Oh... and for whatever reason, Philly sure seems like they're in a hurry.
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