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Wheeler buy out alternative

Created by: Caniac555
Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 27, 2023
Published: Jun. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
3$2,500,000
2$4,500,000
1$3,000,000
1$2,500,000
1$2,500,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Deangelo, Anthony ($2,500,000 retained)
PHI
  1. Wall, Kevin [Reserve List]
2.
CAR
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
  2. Wheeler, Blake ($2,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Saves WPG from Wheeler buy out, retention is the buy out amount for 23-24.
WPG
  1. Skjei, Brady
Additional Details:
Skjei agrees to extension with WPG
3.
CAR
  1. Lindholm, Elias
CGY
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Morrow, Scott [Reserve List]
  3. Teräväinen, Teuvo
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,500,000$73,054,417$450,000$800,000$10,445,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Aho, Sebastian
$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
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Necas, Martin
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Svechnikov, Andrei
$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Jarvis, Seth
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
van Riemsdyk, James
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 7
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Wheeler, Blake
-$1,950,000-$1,950,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Martinook, Jordan
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Staal, Jordan
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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Fast, Jesper
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
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Noesen, Stefan
$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Burns, Brent
$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Andersen, Frederik
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 2
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Raanta, Antti
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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Chatfield, Jalen
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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Deangelo, Anthony
-$825,000-$825,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Kochetkov, Pyotr
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 4
Staal, Marc
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Coghlan, Dylan
$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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because Winnipeg need another LD....

Ehlers isnt going anywhere
Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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Wait so the savings from the buyout somehow gets you Ehlers too?
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:15 a.m.
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oh gosh. OEL as 2LW? thats bad.

Jets would rather buyout Wheeler than give away Ehlers to save some cap space. Skjei isnt a match for them.

that 3rd line would be one of the slowest in the league. JVR, KK and Wheeler on the same line. NJ on other teams would be in the O zone before those forwards get past the center line.

wasting all those assets on Lindholm who we wouldt pay Horvat money for is bad business.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
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Good comments today
Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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And an extended Skjei who scored 18 goals last year. Someone extending in WPG should be worth something, right?

You can do a lot with $10+ million in cap space

Quoting: mmccRed198913
Wait so the savings from the buyout somehow gets you Ehlers too?
Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
And an extended Skjei who scored 18 goals last year. Someone extending in WPG should be worth something, right?

You can do a lot with $10+ million in cap space


Didn't Ehlers score the same number of points in half the games?
Jun. 28, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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Quoting: mmccRed198913
Didn't Ehlers score the same number of points in half the games?


one is a forward and the other isnt. not quite an equal comparison
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 11:32 a.m.
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Not bad for Lindholm, but I'd probably insist on your 2024 1st or the PHI 2nd. The problem including Drury in proposals is I can't see Conroy and Iggy considering him because they witnessed his uncle whine his way out of Calgary 20 years ago because he didn't like the city
Jun. 28, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.
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Guess that’s one way of doing business. The other way would be to give him a chance to succeed…winning is the best deodorant

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Not bad for Lindholm, but I'd probably insist on your 2024 1st or the PHI 2nd. The problem including Drury in proposals is I can't see Conroy and Iggy considering him because they witnessed his uncle whine his way out of Calgary 20 years ago because he didn't like the city
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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Guess that’s one way of doing business. The other way would be to give him a chance to succeed…winning is the best deodorant


Yeah I get your point, but from the perspective of the franchise that's currently having it's 4th high profile American refuse to sign an extension in the last 5 years it makes more sense
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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I like the Lindholm deal if he comes with an affordable extension. Here is my thought on a Lindholm trade. Not far off in total:

- 2023 1st, 2nd
- Teuvo
- Drury or D prospect not named Morrow or Nikishin

I would be okay without an extension in place or even an agreement. I think Teuvo bounces back next year no matter who he is with.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
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Not sure what an affordable extension is - but if you look at Larkin and Horvat deals, you’d be looking at something like 10.4-10.5% of the cap, so youre looking at something like 8.8-9.2 AAV range.

Would it be terrible to have Aho and Lindholm sign similar extensions, and run long term center depth Aho/Lindholm/KK?

Quoting: InRodWeTrust
I like the Lindholm deal if he comes with an affordable extension. Here is my thought on a Lindholm trade. Not far off in total:

- 2023 1st, 2nd
- Teuvo
- Drury or D prospect not named Morrow or Nikishin

I would be okay without an extension in place or even an agreement. I think Teuvo bounces back next year no matter who he is with.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.
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Not sure what an affordable extension is - but if you look at Larkin and Horvat deals, you’d be looking at something like 10.4-10.5% of the cap, so youre looking at something like 8.8-9.2 AAV range.

Would it be terrible to have Aho and Lindholm sign similar extensions, and run long term center depth Aho/Lindholm/KK?


Nope. It would not.
 
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