How about you keep Ceci Broberg and your 1st, and we will keep Pesce and run the deepest defense in the league.

Ok, you and your penny pinching owner walk him to UFA and lose him for 0

Same old trope, I’ll just let you keep thinking that way.

Canes decline. That's comical



Uhh... the issue is term, not money. Proof? Orlov. 7.75 x 2 Go off though. If you want to keep chatting out of your backside and showing everyone how clueless you are, go for it.

More term = more $, shouldn't really have to be said. You go off.

Not always, and not in this case. But go off.

Pesce will command $6.5M+ for at least 5 years, so yes in this case.

If that's all he wanted, 6.5 x 5 he'd have signed already. Pesce wants 7 years and he wants north of 7. Even if it was 7 mil x 5 years, Canes would do it. So no, not in this case.

Going longer term will almost always cost an owner more in real $. Unless Pesce was willing to take a substantial cut for years, which at 28, why would he, now's his only chance to get the bag. If he wants 7x7, that's $49M in real dollars to Dundon, I doubt his issue is "that's just too long to lock up a #1-2 D man in his prime for." Also if he weren't a penny pincher, he should have no issue going to say $9M for 5 years if term's the problem, but newsflash, it's not. The money is.

Or, he could take 7.75 x 2, and then get a second chance to do it in a few years when the cap goes up.. who would do that? Short term should never be an issue for a player if they truly believe they're worth it, you think if he wanted to McDavid wouldn't go year by year signing league max contracts? Get outta here, you're clueless.

You're clueless if you think Dundon is a pennypincher. Since he arrived in Raleigh, he built a new practice facility in Wake Forest, he's already looking for permission to rennovate PNC Arena, he's trying to buy some of the surrounding land so it's not just the Arena in the middle of nowhere too. Carolina had the highest pay roll in the league at the end of the season. You think he's a penny pincher? Are you dumb or ignorant? Either way, you're wrong.

I’d think oilers fans would understand the cap and what happens when you’re up against it but I guess not. If they give pesce 7x7 they risk losing younger up and coming players down the road as pesce starts to decline. That’s not being cheap or penny pinching, that’s having a smart long term outlook and keeping your flexibility. Now if they continuously did stuff like this and stayed under the cap, sure that would be cheap. But they’ve literally spent up to and over the cap every year that he’s been the owner. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand but clearly you love the narrative and are entitled to your misinformed opinion.

As far as the trade, Ceci isn’t needed or wanted by the Canes so that can be removed. broberg plus a first simply isn’t landing pesce with half retention. If that’s the best offer they just load up and use him as their own rental this year, not the worst thing.

I don't think he's a penny pincher, multiple insiders have reported that he is. And no, no one in their right mind would do that. Hockey is a tough, violent sport. You do not know if your going to get next year. You take the term and money. If Pesce feels, rightly so, like he can get 7x7 he absolutely should. A 28-year old D and 30-year old D are view vastly differently in this league. In 2 summers he will be negotiating with 3-4 years of prime service left instead of 5-6. That's massive. Less than a 0% chance should Pesce sign anything less than a 5-year deal, much less 2. That's a ****ing joke. That is leaving $34,500,000 on the table. *Maybe* he could be convinced to do 4, if you go into the 9's. Thinking paying him an extra $500,000 buys you 5 years is a joke and frankly a penny pincher's attitude.

No one has reported he's a pennypincher LMAO. You're clueless.

Orlov just did it, DeBrincat is probably going to do it, Hall did it, Klingberg did it twice, you're clueless if you think players won't do it. Pesce knows he's not going to be worth 7 million in 7 years, that's why he wants it, it's why players want it, and Carolina never put themselves in positions to have a contract look bad. Look at the Svechnikov deal, they had no issue paying that because he's going to be 28 on expiry. If you really believe what you said, you need mental help. Seriously.

Dreger did, on the GYB podcast less than a week ago. Orlov is 31. Not 28. If you think that is the same thing, it is not me who needs help. Klingberg is 30, not 28. Klingberg also signed a 1-year in Anaheim in the hopes of raising his stock to cash in, he failed at that, that's on him. DeBrincat, at 25, I could see signing perhaps a 3-year to cash in at 28, but that would be surprising. Players have very limited windows in the NHL to get the bag, today's circumstances will entice more players to take that risk bc of the flat cap, but Pesce is correct that the lowest risk option is to get $ and term now.

As for Svechnikov, yes he did sign shorter, as did Matthews, since they were 28 or younger, entering their prime AT EXPIRY. Those guys are signing for as much term and $ as they can when those deals expire. 28 is also THE SAME AGE THAT BRETT PESCE IS TODAY. He is not going to give you 4 prime years for $250k/yr salary. if you think that, it is not me who needs help.