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Created by: GolfBall

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 11, 2023

Published: Jul. 11, 2023

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Leafs get Karlsson for $3.5M, Sharks get 40 goal Nylander, replacement offensive Klingberg whose future contract is manageable, winger Lafferty and a pick. For $4M retention Ducks get upside Robertson, 2 Stanley cup goalie Murray and 2 picks. If Murray healthy, he's good. If on LTIR no pain. Note: Can be other team than Anaheim, package the same.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya		3	$3,200,000

Trades

TOR

Karlsson, Erik ($4,000,000 retained)

SJS

TOR

$4,000,000 cap hit for Karlsson

ANA

Murray, Matt
Robertson, Nicholas
2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
2024 7th round pick (OTT)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$83,500,000	$78,159,917	$0	$0	$5,340,083

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Holmberg, Pontus $800,000$800,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3
	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4
	Gambrell, Dylan $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Karlsson, Erik $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $3,200,000$3,200,000 G UFA - 1
	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1

Jul. 11, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.

GeneralLandro

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😂😂😂

You want Anaheim to retain 12 million dollars over 4 years and all we get is a cap dump a player who has lived on the LTIR a 3rd and a 7th?

This is delusion

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Jul. 11, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.

GolfBall

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

😂😂😂

You want Anaheim to retain 12 million dollars over 4 years and all we get is a cap dump a player who has lived on the LTIR a 3rd and a 7th?

This is delusion

Not really. Nylander has huge value. Klingberg is a cheaper Karlsson. Laffetty and picks were a throw in.

Jul. 11, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.

GeneralLandro

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Quoting: GolfBall

Not really. Nylander has huge value. Klingberg is a cheaper Karlsson. Laffetty and picks were a throw in.

We’re talking about Anaheim here man

Jul. 11, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.

GolfBall

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

We’re talking about Anaheim here man

My bad. Ducks get top prospect, 2 Stanley cup ring goalie for 1 year. Jettison if needed plus picks.

Jul. 11, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.

GeneralLandro

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Quoting: GolfBall

My bad. Ducks get top prospect, 2 Stanley cup ring goalie for 1 year. Jettison if needed plus picks.

No Robo is nowhere near a top prospect and Murray is only a cap dump

You also can’t retain for 1 year — if you retain, it’s for the remainder contract

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Jul. 11, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.

Waffelz

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

No Robo is nowhere near a top prospect and Murray is only a cap dump

You also can’t retain for 1 year — if you retain, it’s for the remainder contract

I mean Murray only has 1 year left, so it is only 1 year of retention... Robertson might not be a true top prospect, but he probably is the Leafs top prospect. Either way, still a garbage trade for the Ducks.

Jul. 11, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.

BeefBouillon

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Popped this in your other ACGM, but look at Marleau's cap dump trade from Toronto to Carolina where $6.25M for 1 year cost a 1st and a 7th.

I think $16M of retention on Karlsson would cost at least 2 1st round picks.

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Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

GolfBall

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

No Robo is nowhere near a top prospect and Murray is only a cap dump

You also can’t retain for 1 year — if you retain, it’s for the remainder contract

Retaining Karlsson is 4 years. Murray is a single year

Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.

GolfBall

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Quoting: BeefBouillon

Not in addition to Nylander to Sharks or Murray to Ducks or whoever has value.

Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.

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BeefBouillon

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Quoting: GolfBall

Not in addition to Nylander to Sharks or Murray to Ducks or whoever has value.

Sorry to break it to you, but Murray doesn't have much value. It would actually cost Toronto to get rid of his $4.6M.

But if you expect a 3rd party team to retain $4M for 4 years, you would be looking at Toronto having to give them multiple 1st round picks.

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Jul. 11, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.

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With all due respect, I think adding firsts is what you hope you get whereas I think that market is softer. Perhaps there is some middle ground.

Jul. 11, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.

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Quoting: GolfBall

With all due respect, I think adding firsts is what you hope you get whereas I think that market is softer. Perhaps there is some middle ground.

With all due respect, you either don’t understand retention or have no concept of its value

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Jul. 11, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.

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GeneralLandro

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Quoting: Jded

With all due respect, you either don’t understand retention or have no concept of its value

So true — just hang onto millions for us man, we promise to add you to the Christmas card list

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