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Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 12, 2023
Published: Jul. 12, 2023
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Jul. 12, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.
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Nope. Boston does not do that.

I can see a Sway for Mark S based trade. I’d hate it, but i can see them doing it.

But that’s not it.
Jul. 12, 2023 at 9:10 a.m.
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Whyre we getting swayman and Vanecek when we have brossoit,
Jul. 12, 2023 at 9:16 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 12, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
Grzelcyk as an LHD has no value to Winnipeg.

Poitras is okay.

Swayman as an unproven goalie that lost his starters job, doesn't have a ton of value.

The Jets aren't taking 2 goalies in return for Hellebuyck.

Easy no for Winnipeg on both. Why would any team take 3 goalies in 2 trades.
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Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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Classic absolutely not we’ll target a center next year in free agency
Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
Quoting: Windjammer
Grzelcyk as an LHD has no value to Winnipeg.

Poitras is okay.

Swayman as an unproven goalie that lost his starters job, doesn't have a ton of value.

The Jets aren't taking 2 goalies in return for Hellebuyck.

Easy no for Winnipeg on both. Why would any team take 3 goalies in 2 trades.


Agree on the NJD trade being weird - I could see them taking back Vanecek (just because NJD wouldn't need him with Hellebuyck) but the prospect has to be different than another goalie.

Have to push back on Swayman "losing his starter's job" though - it's been pretty clear that both he & Ullmark were a clear 1/1A tandem since the beginning of last season. I think going from 39 starts in 2021-22 to 33 in 22-23 because your tandem partner won the Vezina isn't something I'm going to mark down as a negative on Swayman's scouting report - he still had a .920 SV% & 2.27 GAA last year.

Part of me wonders if you could merge this into one big 3-way trade?
WPG receives: 2024 1st, Matt Poitras, Jeremy Swayman (RFA rights), Vitek Vanecek, and [upgraded NJD prospect from Tyler Brennan]
WPG loses: Mark Scheifele (BOS), Connor Hellebuyck (NJD)

BOS receives: Mark Scheifele
BOS loses: Matthew Poitras, Matt Grzelcyk, Jeremy Swayman (RFA rights)

NJD receives: Connor Hellebuyck, Matt Grzelcyk (shelter for Luke Hughes this year)
NJD loses: Vitek Vanecek, [upgraded Brennan add], 2024 1st

Feels like NJ would need to send something to Boston to make it work, but I think there's an interesting thing happening with that.
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Jul. 12, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
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Agree on the NJD trade being weird - I could see them taking back Vanecek (just because NJD wouldn't need him with Hellebuyck) but the prospect has to be different than another goalie.

Have to push back on Swayman "losing his starter's job" though - it's been pretty clear that both he & Ullmark were a clear 1/1A tandem since the beginning of last season. I think going from 39 starts in 2021-22 to 33 in 22-23 because your tandem partner won the Vezina isn't something I'm going to mark down as a negative on Swayman's scouting report - he still had a .920 SV% & 2.27 GAA last year.

Part of me wonders if you could merge this into one big 3-way trade?
WPG receives: 2024 1st, Matt Poitras, Jeremy Swayman (RFA rights), and [upgraded NJD prospect from Tyler Brennan]
WPG loses: Mark Scheifele (BOS), Connor Hellebuyck (NJD)

BOS receives: Mark Scheifele
BOS loses: Matthew Poitras, Matt Grzelcyk, Jeremy Swayman (RFA rights)

NJD receives: Connor Hellebuyck, Matt Grzelcyk (shelter for Luke Hughes this year)
NJD loses: Vitek Vanecek, [upgraded Brennan add], 2024 1st

Feels like NJ would need to send something to Boston to make it work, but I think there's an interesting thing happening with that.


There would need to be at least 2 firsts in value coming back for both Scheifele and Hellebuyck, since that would be a minimum TDL price. So the Brennan upgrade would need to be significant. Figuring on Poitras being worth a 2nd or 3rd maybe and Swayman a 2nd.
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Jul. 12, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Grzelcyk as an LHD has no value to Winnipeg.

Poitras is okay.

Swayman as an unproven goalie that lost his starters job, doesn't have a ton of value.

The Jets aren't taking 2 goalies in return for Hellebuyck.

Easy no for Winnipeg on both. Why would any team take 3 goalies in 2 trades.


You're still trying to push this trash narrative?
Jul. 12, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.
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You're still trying to push this trash narrative?


What trash narrative?
Jul. 12, 2023 at 7:51 p.m.
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What trash narrative?


The one I bolded, that Swayman lost his starters job
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