If you want Teuvo in the package it'll cost a bit more

Buffalo does this absolutely

Why amm I paying more for skjei and joki than buffalo is for turbo and pesce

The two trades were more of a base. I know how hard it is for teams to move salary, however, I also know that the Canes' assets are sought after, unlike Pittsburgh's.

I would do that, I think pesce has buffalo on his ntc, and he may have already said no. But honestly, I think we would be better with him. That would likely bump Clifton to third pair with Erik Johnson and either stillman or Lyubushkin. Of course it would have to come with some kind of extension.

Detroit is not paying more. The first that Detroit is giving up is much later.

Nawr from Detroit

Detroit passes, No room for Skjei and Joki. Plus we're not giving up 1st round picks for defense.

Why are we paying even close to the same

Skjei had a better season than Pesce last year statistically. He likely gets nearly as much in a trade. Also, Detroit's left side is not great. Skjei would strongly elevate that defense and actually give a legitimate top-4 caliber partner for Seider.

Skjei-Seider
Walman-Holl
Ghost-Jokiharju

Is leagues beyond what the defense currently constitutes.

Walman and Seider were a phenomenal pairing until the whole team started tanking. Walman, barring a significant drop off, is great.

Furthermore, an issue is that although it may be better currently, Detroit has a phenomenal LD prospect pool. Skjei would be an expensive bandaid over an already scabbed wound.

To me, what Detroit should do depends on how high you are on Wallinder becoming a top-4 defenseman. I'm pretty sure that Edvinsson has what it takes to become one, but whether to acquire and sign a top-4 veteran like Skjei long-term IMO depends on what you think of Wallinder.

I'm huge on Wallinder. Has shown more boom than bust. Assuming that he hits top-4 capabilities, he's probably lined up with Seider, negating most of his defensive deficiencies.

Vlad can shove that deal…he burned that bridge after verbally agreeing and backing out. Good luck to him - save the cap space.

Why would Carolina do this, these trades are not worth it for Carolina. Carolina becomes less of a contender with this