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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:17 a.m.
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Who’s he waving at?
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.
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But no seriously why would any team on earth accept this? You just traded two of the worst contracts in the whole league to the same team lol
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.
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But no seriously why would any team on earth accept this? You just traded two of the worst contracts in the whole league to the same team lol


RNH doesn't look bad anymore because of last season but I agree lol. Boston also nedds Centres so Ig it makes sence. Campbell doesn't and they'd give the Oilers Ullmark not Swayman. Swayman is their future and that sends it down the s.h.i.t.t.e.r. .
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
But no seriously why would any team on earth accept this? You just traded two of the worst contracts in the whole league to the same team lol


Rnh is a bad contract?
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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Bruins aren't doing that.

1) They can't afford both. Boston has never spent anywhere close to $10m on a goalie tandem in recent years and they aren't going to with 2 30+ year old goalies. IF they were to spend $10m on goalies, they'd just keep Swayman.
2) I don't want RNH until 35 or 36 at $5m, he's never going to replicate his 100 point season.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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Boston declines.

They might be able to work a Jake/RNH type trade but this is not it.

B’s simply can’t take Campbell logistically.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:25 a.m.
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But no seriously why would any team on earth accept this? You just traded two of the worst contracts in the whole league to the same team lol

Explain why you think RNH contract is one of the worst in the league? You sound like a casual fan lol
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:28 a.m.
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Rnh is a bad contract?

He should be more than capable to live up to that 5.1m cap hit for the entire duration of his contract imo.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
But no seriously why would any team on earth accept this? You just traded two of the worst contracts in the whole league to the same team lol


Did you just say RNH contract is one of the worst in the league?

Career 65pt/ season 30y/o player at 5.1mil for 6 more years.. you can be mad about the trade, but your take on the RNH contract is worse than the trade noted above lol

RNH deal is superior to recent comparables:
Compher 5x5.1mil at 28yo
Copp 5x5.65mil at 28yo
R. Strome 5x5mil at 29yo
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:30 a.m.
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But no seriously why would any team on earth accept this? You just traded two of the worst contracts in the whole league to the same team lol

RNH is one of the best contracts in the league what are u saying lol
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:37 a.m.
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Why include Gryz in this? Edmonton would rather play Broberg, who has more upside. They certainly don't need more LHD.

Apart from the fact Edmonton wouldn't trade Nugent-Hopkins for 2 rentals and an RFA goalie when they've already got their goalie of the future in Skinner.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:37 a.m.
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That Campbell contract is atrocious. Not just the AAV, but the term. If you want to dump that, it will cost a lot more than a second, and it will be unbearably expensive if you want young NHL talent like Swayman and Debrusk coming back. RNH is not enough.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
But no seriously why would any team on earth accept this? You just traded two of the worst contracts in the whole league to the same team lol


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RNH doesn't look bad anymore because of last season but I agree lol. Boston also nedds Centres so Ig it makes sence. Campbell doesn't and they'd give the Oilers Ullmark not Swayman. Swayman is their future and that sends it down the s.h.i.t.t.e.r. .


Prior to last season, RNHs career average was 58 pts/g I don't see how 5.125M is a bad value contract. He's a 2nd line player, not a 3C like Andrew Copp or Charlie Coyle and he's not a late bloomer like Rust either who is arguably just a top 9 FWD.

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Bruins aren't doing that.

1) They can't afford both. Boston has never spent anywhere close to $10m on a goalie tandem in recent years and they aren't going to with 2 30+ year old goalies. IF they were to spend $10m on goalies, they'd just keep Swayman.
2) I don't want RNH until 35 or 36 at $5m, he's never going to replicate his 100 point season.


That's okay because you don't get 100pt players for 5M, so no reason to expect him to replicate. Will his contract age badly? Maybe but that's like any contract and 5M won't be such an albatross contract anyways by then. He potentially fills a major need now, can't be worried about 5 or 6 years from now.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:44 a.m.
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Prior to last season, RNHs career average was 58 pts/g I don't see how 5.125M is a bad value contract. He's a 2nd line player, not a 3C like Andrew Copp or Charlie Coyle and he's not a late bloomer like Rust either who is arguably just a top 9 FWD.



That's okay because you don't get 100pt players for 5M, so no reason to expect him to replicate. Will his contract age badly? Maybe but that's like any contract and 5M won't be such an albatross contract anyways by then. He potentially fills a major need now, can't be worried about 5 or 6 years from now.


Yeah I’m not gonna lie I thought he was making double that I retract my part about RNH
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:45 a.m.
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Did you just say RNH contract is one of the worst in the league?

Career 65pt/ season 30y/o player at 5.1mil for 6 more years.. you can be mad about the trade, but your take on the RNH contract is worse than the trade noted above lol

RNH deal is superior to recent comparables:
Compher 5x5.1mil at 28yo
Copp 5x5.65mil at 28yo
R. Strome 5x5mil at 29yo


Yeah ur right I thought he was making double that for some reason
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:45 a.m.
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Explain why you think RNH contract is one of the worst in the league? You sound like a casual fan lol


See above, was a mistake
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:46 a.m.
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Rnh is a bad contract?


No lol
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Yeah ur right I thought he was making double that for some reason


While RNH probably won’t ever replicate last years numbers, even if he gives you 65-70% of that, he still outperforms his contract easily
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:49 a.m.
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Yeah I’m not gonna lie I thought he was making double that I retract my part about RNH


Darnell Nurse is THE guy that's making too on the Oilers at 9.25M, maybe you confused the two.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:51 a.m.
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Prior to last season, RNHs career average was 58 pts/g I don't see how 5.125M is a bad value contract. He's a 2nd line player, not a 3C like Andrew Copp or Charlie Coyle and he's not a late bloomer like Rust either who is arguably just a top 9 FWD.



That's okay because you don't get 100pt players for 5M, so no reason to expect him to replicate. Will his contract age badly? Maybe but that's like any contract and 5M won't be such an albatross contract anyways by then. He potentially fills a major need now, can't be worried about 5 or 6 years from now.


I never said he has a bad contract...
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:58 a.m.
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Definitive pass. Bruins aren't taking Campbell.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.
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I never said he has a bad contract...


You said "RNH doesn't look bad anymore because of last season but I agree lol" in response to someone who did. Can't really blame me for thinking that's what you meant. Not sure what you were agreeing to but it's all good, I think everyone is on the same page now in regards to RNH's contract.

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RNH doesn't look bad anymore because of last season but I agree lol. Boston also nedds Centres so Ig it makes sence. Campbell doesn't and they'd give the Oilers Ullmark not Swayman. Swayman is their future and that sends it down the s.h.i.t.t.e.r. .
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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I can't imagine RNH wanting to waive his NMC this season and/or while McDavid and Draisaitl are both still there.

If he were to waive his NMC, I'm not sure Boston is going to be on the top of his list. Being the top guy at C hasn't really worked out for him in the past and the Bruins seem like they will fall off for a few years before being top competitors again.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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You said "RNH doesn't look bad anymore because of last season but I agree lol" in response to someone who did. Can't really blame me for thinking that's what you meant. Not sure what you were agreeing to but it's all good, I think everyone is on the same page now in regards to RNH's contract.


Yeah ok I get that
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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That's okay because you don't get 100pt players for 5M, so no reason to expect him to replicate. Will his contract age badly? Maybe but that's like any contract and 5M won't be such an albatross contract anyways by then. He potentially fills a major need now, can't be worried about 5 or 6 years from now.


If he continues to produce 50-60 points through 3-4 years of his contract than it would be absolutely worth it. Do I want to give up JDB for it? I'm not so sure, but he may well just sign with EDM after this year anyway. If they took Campbell out of the deal than I think Boston considers it.
 
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