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Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 28, 2023
Published: Jul. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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1$4,000,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Nylander, William
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Nylander signs a 9.25x8
TOR
  1. Coghlan, Dylan
  2. Necas, Martin
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
Necas signs a 6.9x4 With extentions this is an equal trade value. I believe that the Leafs would want to give Necas time to develop and see what he's acctually worth so a 6.9x4 is the best contract for him
2.
CAR
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (OTT)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,216,783$450,000$500,000$283,217
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
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UFA - 3
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
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UFA - 1
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 7
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
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UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
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UFA - 2
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
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UFA - 2
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
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Taxi Squad
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 ($850,000$850K$850,000$850K)
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:07 a.m.
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MN simply cannot take on cap. Any deal that isn't dollar-in-dollar-out doesn't have a chance.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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if Nylander was going to sign for that much, leafs would have done it by now
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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Canes pass
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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Don't know why Carolina would do this. Necas extended is likely more valuable than Nylander extended. Necas is 3 years younger, he's faster, and Necas has actually played down the middle. Something Nylander hasn't done in forever. For only 15 points to get 3 years younger (Necas will likely grow past that anyway) while putting up comparable numbers to a guy playing with Matthews, Marner and Tavares? No thank you
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Don't know why Carolina would do this. Necas extended is likely more valuable than Nylander extended. Necas is 3 years younger, he's faster, and Necas has actually played down the middle. Something Nylander hasn't done in forever. For only 15 points to get 3 years younger (Necas will likely grow past that anyway) while putting up comparable numbers to a guy playing with Matthews, Marner and Tavares? No thank you


Necas is **** in the playoffs idfc what anyone says he'll take 7 and for someone that doesn't show up in the playoffs Necas is just not that
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.
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Necas is **** in the playoffs idfc what anyone says he'll take 7 and for someone that doesn't show up in the playoffs Necas is just not that


You think Nylander and his 1 primary point at 5v5 is going to fix that? Brother I've got news for you
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.
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if Nylander was going to sign for that much, leafs would have done it by now


Remember that the tax in Carolina isn't as bad as in Toronto so 9.25 in Carolina is probably 10 in Toronto
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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You think Nylander and his 1 primary point at 5v5 is going to fix that? Brother I've got news for you


Our PP is crap thats what we need! Necas had 5p in 15g if you think Necas is better than Nylander then I got even bigger knews for you.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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You think Nylander and his 1 primary point at 5v5 is going to fix that? Brother I've got news for you


1 primary?! he had 2 goals and if you count the assists then you've got more than 1 primary point tears of joy
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Falcon_talon
Necas is **** in the playoffs idfc what anyone says he'll take 7 and for someone that doesn't show up in the playoffs Necas is just not that


and for that very reason - if Nylander will take 9.25x8, I think the Leafs just keep him. Would consider if the price gets much higher though
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:25 a.m.
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and for that very reason - if Nylander will take 9.25x8, I think the Leafs just keep him. Would consider if the price gets much higher though


He won't take that in Toronto the tax will screw him and he'll probably want 9.75 if you're lucky
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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1 primary?! he had 2 goals and if you count the assists then you've got more than 1 primary point tears of joy


Reread what I said. Most of his production was on the powerplay. He had 1 primary point at 5v5, a goal in game 4 I think it was of the Panthers series.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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He won't take that in Toronto the tax will screw him and he'll probably want 9.75 if you're lucky


tax is somewhat offset by the difference in advertisement/etc deals in Toronto vs. Carolina though
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:29 a.m.
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Remember that the tax in Carolina isn't as bad as in Toronto so 9.25 in Carolina is probably 10 in Toronto

no its not... not to mention the endorsements in Toronto are way bigger. the money he makes with Sonnet (****ty company that over paid him) makes up for any "tax differences"
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:29 a.m.
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Our PP is crap thats what we need! Necas had 5p in 15g if you think Necas is better than Nylander then I got even bigger knews for you.


Necas is the more valuable asset and both had garbage playoffs... stop it
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101


Quoting: Falcon_talon
He won't take that in Toronto the tax will screw him and he'll probably want 9.75 if you're lucky


It's not just about the taxes though in Toronto, I'm sure Nylander isn't going to want to take less just so that Matthews and Marner can maximize their next contracts. It appears that Matthews is taking "less" but on a short term deal.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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Reread what I said. Most of his production was on the powerplay. He had 1 primary point at 5v5, a goal in game 4 I think it was of the Panthers series.


6 of his 10 playoff points in 11 games came at even strength in the 2022-23 playoffs. 5 EV points in 7 games the year prior, 7 EV points in 7 games the year before that. Always helpful to check the stats you spew out
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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Our PP is crap thats what we need! Necas had 5p in 15g if you think Necas is better than Nylander then I got even bigger knews for you.


lolz. I know you dont actually watch the canes then. the last 3 seasons they are 8th in GF/60 and 9th in xGF/60 on the PP. total crap, right.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
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Nah im good
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
6 of his 10 playoff points in 11 games came at even strength in the 2022-23 playoffs. 5 EV points in 7 games the year prior, 7 EV points in 7 games the year before that. Always helpful to check the stats you spew out


https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/n/nylanwi01.html

My bad, 2 even strength goals. That's it. To put this into perspective, Necas had 3... thank you for asking me to research this and proving my point even more so. And if I may, you should always check the stats you spew out!
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.
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The problem with nylander is his compete level is completely on his own terms - he is great at take aways and is up there in points, but he only shows moments of being the best player on the ice
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.
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I would love to see Teravainen back in Chicago but I can’t see Carolina giving him up for only a 3rd.
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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if Nylander was going to sign for that much, leafs would have done it by now


He will sign for around 9.5. In TO and this will finally end.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.
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https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/n/nylanwi01.html

My bad, 2 even strength goals. That's it. To put this into perspective, Necas had 3... thank you for asking me to research this and proving my point even more so. And if I may, you should always check the stats you spew out!


Nylander had 1 fewer EV point than Necas had total points in the playoffs, and Necas played 4 more games. I'll take EV (2g/6pt/11gp) and total (4g/10pt/11gp) over EV (3g/0 assists/15gp) and total (4g/7pt/15gp) every day of the week. Not to mention Nylander now has a 3 year consecutive track record of strong playoff performance at EV and total (I included those stats in the last comment).
Jul. 28, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Falcon_talon
Remember that the tax in Carolina isn't as bad as in Toronto so 9.25 in Carolina is probably 10 in Toronto


TO can give the whole contract in bonus money which is as advantageous as lower taxes. Some argue it's even more beneficial. Getting all the money upfront allows investments that grow faster than taxes claw back.
 
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