I don't recall Ullmark departing Buffalo on good terms, wouldn't he use his trade protection to not go back?

From an outside perspective, it looks pretty solid to me. Bruins get Cap relief, UPL replaces Ullmark in the lineup and lets Swayman start and they get a good prospect in Ostlund. Jokiharju is a downgrade from Carlo but they get a much needed C in Mittlestadt. Buffalo gets a solid defensive Dman and a much needed Goalie to help shoulder the load in case Levi isn’t quite ready yet to be the starter. Think it helps both teams well

He wanted term but Kevyn wasn't going to give it to him. Not bad terms

I don’t think it got too sour, just couldn’t agree on a contract

Buffalo is also a much better team now to play on

I’m not sure how Ullmark would feel about a return to Buffalo,
but i don’t think it got to the point where it would be out of the question

Might be thinking of lehner. Lehner left on bad terms. He blamed the Sabres medical staff for some injury troubles. He was also drinking large quantities of alcohol because of issues with depression. That's a guy that I can't see coming back. Ullmark had the option to leave, and when the Sabres wouldn't commit to a big contract, he took a similar deal to play for Boston, behind a veteran team that absolutely knows how to play 200 foot hockey. Can't blame him. I don't think there was any hard feelings either way.

Thanks
And well said. That’s exactly what i was going for

At least not anything severe (as far as bad feelings go)

What do u think of my trade idea in general?
I think it’s in the ballpark of being reasonable

Idk that Buffalo & Boston would be willing to help each other out like this, but it does seem to make sense for both sides
At least to me it does 🤣🤣🤣

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Carlo would be fantastic. Ullmark I could take or leave, to me he's a league average goalie. You aren't overpaying for ullmark here, and he's an upgrade over upl and comrie.

Boston would not consider it.

Interesting
I’ve gotten ALL positive feedback from Bruins fans up till now.
Care to elaborate?

Value wise, it seems fair. I’m just not sure Boston would part with Carlo just yet and the tandem of Ullmark and Swayman will be much needed (along with the current defence) with the lack of center depth and scoring. The Bruins are in ‘wait and see’ mode with additions they just made. Unless some blockbuster happens, I can’t see them doing anything until the TDL.

Fair enough
Tbh, i don’t see it happening in reality either
More just a fun idea on how 2 rivals can help each other

Well i’m the only B’s fan that has commented 🤷🏻‍♂️

The only piece of any real interest is Mittlestedt.

Boston would not trade Carlo for Horvat or Landeskog in the past. Not trading him for Mitts.

Carlo has been impossible to pry from Boston. I’d imagine about the only players rumored to be on Boston’s radar that might get Carlo on the table is Zegras/MacTavish. And i don’t think there is anything to the rumors on the those 2, just wishful thinking.

Might consider Ullmark for Mitts. Leave the rest out. Doubt it, but maybe.

Then there is Ully NTC. I read an interview where he considered quitting the NHL and heading back to Europe due to being unhappy/depressed before Boston. I don’t know if Buffalo was the reason or just in general. But i’d imagine he associates Buffalo with that time in his life.

Sweeney loves Carlo too much but if Lohrei emerges as a dynamic top 4 dman that can play shutdown minutes It would be worth considering

No, you’re not
There were several on my earlier post, and there’s a been a few on this one

Fair point
But that was also when u guys had Bergeron & Krejci

You’re in (obvious) desperate need of Centers

It was, but they knew they were likely leaving when they pursued Horvat, Carlo was a deal breaker.

And false, they are not desperate for centers, they have 4 middle 6 centers in the lineup every night and 5 of 6 top NHL ready or close to it prospects are centers.

They don’t need middle 6 centers, at all. They need a #1. Mitts is not.

I hear ya on Carlo.
Seems like the same reasons I’d want him, u guys wouldn’t wanna give him up. I wouldn’t give up Mittelstadt without him in the deal though.

As for Ullmark, i know he won the Vezina last year, but i don’t see him at all as one of the best goalies in the League.
Maybe it’s bc he was here in Buffalo when we were bad, but i see him as a “good” goalie, not a great one.
And i wouldn’t do Mitts for him straight up.
I doubt the Sabres would either.

Would he waive to come back here?
Obviously idk
But the Sabres are a MUCH more attractive team to play for now, and he was willing to sign a long term contract here before he left- so he couldn’t have “hated it”

I really like your team that has been built there and their long term outlook. Lots of pieces i’d like. Just don’t see the two teams fitting well for a trade. The pieces you’d want Boston does not want give up and vice versa.

He was a top10 draft pick for a reason,
and has all the talent to grow into a good top6 Center- especially if he’s between Pasta & Marchand

You’re selling him short bc he’s had trouble with injuries
Mitts was so good filling in for Thompson at 1C last year, that when Thompson got healthy we kept Mitts at 1C and put Thompson at RW2

Your highest drafted Center prospect was picked in round2
Most of them were 3rd or 4th round picks
Do i need to look up the stats on how often those picks work out?

U guys are 100% desperate for Centers
Mitts was a top10 pick, and Ostlund was chosen 16th overall
They both have far more talent than any of your prospects

He’s 45% career faceoff and below average defensively. Does not provide enough offense to overcome his shortcoming elsewhere to even be considered for a 1.

He’d would have made a reasonable replacement for Krecji. They signed Morgan Geekie who it would not surprise me if he was filling that role by years end.

Fair enough
Like i said before, i don’t expect it would happen in real life

His defense actually improved quite nicely last year
And like i pointed out, when he filled in at 1C he was great

Geekie provides less offense & is less talented btw

Draft slots are irrelevant. Bergy was 2nd, March was 3rd. It’s about the player.

Merkulov was undrafted and is looking very much like a middle 6 center option. They are very high on Poitras.

They are just not desperate for centers, it is such a false narrative.

They are desperate for a #1. The rest are covered, short and long term.