Might be a pretty fair trade, though Seattle is at the cap and are now taking on 1.5m Four M NTCs might cause a problem.

This is comedic GOLD!

Yes.... the 4 MNTCs are an issue agreed. Getting all 4 to waive would be like winning the lottery.

Wanna expand on this?

Clearly you have an opinion to share.

Nylander is by far the best player in trade. Brodie > Oleksiak imo but you could argue Tre would prefer Oleksiak’s size. Why, then, are the Leafs adding a prospect? If anything, Seattle should be adding a prospect or pick

1. Yes Nylander is the best player in the deal. Agreed.

2. Brodie is slightly better than Oleksiak, but I would argue the Leafs get better value here in that Olkesiak has term left on his deal.

3. Tolvanen is essentially the NHL ready prospect Seattle gives up. I see potential top 6 in him long term.

4. Neimela's inclusion is open to debate. I think to deal an expiring deal for one with term Francis may want something.... guven the construct of my package.

Whether that is in Nylander is open to question. But, this is more on the basis of my valuation of Tolvanen. If you see less, I can see where you are coming from 100%.

This trade is laughable. Why would the Leafs move an elite forward, excellent defence prospect close to NHL ready, and a solid top 4 defensive D man for this?

Tolvanen was just a waiver pickup last year. Maybe he didn't deserve to get waived but hard to argue he’s a top 6 prospect either…

Fun fact

Marty St. Louis bought out by the Flames. Wasn't even selected in the 2000 expanaion draft. One I am sure Flames faithful would love to have back. Tampa took a flyer. I would say that turned out ok.

Just because he didn't fit in Nashville.... AT ALL.... doesn't mean he doesn't have the game. That is my point. Tolvanen, like St. Louis.... can play.

As I have said, Oleksiak maybe a slight downgrade, but brings and element sorely lacking on the Leafs blueline with term. Term. Key phrase bud. Term..... and it's a good contract to boot. I ask - who would you rather tangle with Tkachuk? Oleksiak or Brodie? I digress.

Seems a lot of people don't like Tolvanen. That is fine. For me, he looks to round out at a fine top 6 forward who can hit can get in dirty areas..... something again, the Leafs long term lack.

Neimela is not anywhere near NHL ready. 2 years away. Even then, for me, he remains an enigma. Solid first year in the AHL granted.

To call this laughable is simply short sighted. Leafs will have a hard time meeting Nylander's demands. Oleksiak, Liligren and Timmins are just fine for me as a RD in 2024-25.

Eberle may go away, but it leaves the Leafs with serious flexibility to fill the roster out via free agency amd the Marlies. Knies likely goes into the top 6. I can see Tolvanen playing his way there.... with like $20 million to spend.

If that is the case, is it so laughable?

Yes. It's absolutely still laughable even with your "justification"