I’d want morrow back if I’m the blues

Heh. Seventy-five percent of the league smashes that offer.

He's not the one we would ask for, dude. Not even close.

Then who? gunler morrow and a first plus would great

Meh. We could do better elsewhere. Morrow is a bit overrated and he'd be blocked in STL anyway. The name you're looking for is Nikishin.

Why do you think Morrow is overrated? And you're not getting Nikishin. He was a no go for Meier...can't imagine he's now suddenly available for 2 years of Buch.

Yeah, not in a million years. Nikishin was the only prospect off the table for Meier. Meier is better than Buchnevich. Stop

Honestly Blues decline this offer. We have so many forwards prospects already in Dvorsky, Snuggeruud, Bolduc, Dean, Stenberg, Neighbors, Alexandrov that adding Gunler isn't appealing. Heimosalami is ok but an undersized defensemen so that won't really interest the blues.

I never said anything about Carolina trading Nikishin, I said that's the name the Blues would ask for. In reality, Buch is no more available than Nikishin is, but I get tired of saying that so this time I said something else that is also true.

I say Morrow is overrated because a lot of folks act like he's a sure-fire floor top pairing guy, when in reality he's more like a top 4 as his absolute ceiling guy. He does not defend particularly well, so he's not even the type the Blues would want.

A team that is going to be mired in mediocrity won't trade the one forward that may actually have value? Come on... be realistic

What are you babbling about now, dude? Good grief.

The rental +1 value of Buchnevich lowers his trade value some compared to a player with more term. I can imagine the Canes sweetening my initial package with more draft picks and prospects, but I'm thinking that the Canes would rather keep Morrow and especially Nikishin. If absolutely necessary, though, I could see the Canes offering Morrow.

That's not the part I was referring to, dude. I was referring to "A team that is going to be mired in mediocrity".

And again, Buch is not available, so all of this talk about offers is meaningless. But let's be very clear about a couple very important things: 1) You guys are pretending as if the Canes would be the only team after Buch if he was actually available, which is so far from reality they need to invent a new distance word just to describe the scope of that misfire, which 2) means you'd pay what the Blues are asking or miss out. It's that simple.

You guys are on about "value" without factoring in what the Blues would require, so again... meaningless. Adding more and more meh is not going to "add up in value" like we're counting nickels and dimes of cash. The actual value is what it would take to get the Blues to give him up. And even Morrow, who like I said gets overrated a lot and does not fit a Blues need moving forward, would not be good enough to kick off a quantity package.

Trade value is not a one size fits all mathematical formula unless maybe we're talking about 3rd pairing Dmen and straight up retention-for-one-pick dumps.