Dallas isn't trading Oettinger barring some kind of major organizational shift. He is a young, star goaltender for a team with a lot of young talent and a large contention window...and if they were, I doubt that package would get him.

He could request a trade if it got out that Igor was leaving and a spot was open. Dallas is great but players love coming to NY

Rushing Perreault would be a bad move and we’ll see if Sykora pans out

Robertson hasn’t looked good

Too much for Schneider IMO

You don't think GP will be good after a couple years in the NCAA? Robertson can be substituted with any other cheap serviceable option out there -- NOT Harpur. What do you think Schneider would get?

I think the NYR need to stop rushing prospects into the NHL. There’s a reason why we have the AHL. Unless Perreault is amazing out of college like Fox, I don’t see it happening

Schneider should get $2m max or under

This is Canadian fan level cringe

Maybe but it's factual

You really think Igor is just gonna walk away? Lol

Tbh yes. We were spoiled with Hank's undying loyalty all those years. I don't think Igor is the same way. Hank was all about New York and I just don't get the same vibe from Igor. I think Igor saw what happened to Hank and doesn't want the same fate of being let down year after year. So I could easily see him leaving in free agency whether it's for more money or because he doesn't think he'll ever win a Cup in NY. And I don't blame him at all. I think this is a real possibility that NYR fans need to get used to the idea of

On the bright side I think if he does we will have another great goalie on our doorstep. Whether it's someone like Oettinger or a really young kid that the GOAT (Benoit Allaire) can develop

Players loving coming to NY sure. I’m not sure I’d want to live there. Outside of the city, absolutely it’s gorgeous up there. City is dirty and nasty and the people suck. I’m from Chicago and it’s the same way. There’s a reason I moved to Texas to start a family. Oetter isn’t the NY playboy type. He’s either engaged or already married. I’ve read multiple times that he’s happy here and the team is winning and should continue to do so til his next deal and moving forward. I don’t see a trade request in his future just because a spot opened up in NY. Especially since he’s from Minnesota

Except for the big, glaring detail that when you demand a trade, you don't get to decide who you are traded to. Rangers would still have to be the highest bid to get him.

Why leave a team with serious cup ability for an extended window to go to NYR who is further away and has a lesser prospect system to keep the window open?

Those facts don’t exist on fantasy island

Really? Because I don't think that's what happened with Patrick Kane. He did not go to the highest bidder he went to the Rangers for scraps. He could easily tell Dallas "trade me to NY or I will walk in free agency and leave you with nothing". Now, I don't think it would even come to that because there would be no reason for Dallas to not trade him to NY. They're in a different conference and already have an established relationship (the Zucc trade comes to mind). Funny enough, the Rangers actually sent Zucc to Dallas for scraps. And this package for Oettinger is not scraps.

A cost-controlled 2OA, already defensively great but needing a change of scenery to increase production is good for any team. Lindgren is one of the most underrated dmen in the league - he is not flashy and doesn't put up many points, but he's also elite defensively. Z Jones is only 22 and has the potential to be Fox Lite. And a first round pick? That is literally a great package for Dallas

And why would Dallas do this exactly? Doesn’t make sense at all.

Before proposing a trade, ask yourself, does it make sense for both sides. If it doesn’t, chances are it will not happen.

Because that's a great return for Oettinger

And why would they trade him again? They have a young, elite goalie who can play a lot of games and can preform very well. They have absolutely no other goalies down the pipeline, it consists of Wedgewood (who’s often injured), and a bunch of AHL goalies who can’t play in the NHL.

So even though players love playing in NY, Igor is leaving? To where?

I mean, I guess if he is super into counting every dollar and doesn't like New York taxes he could go to a no-tax state, like, say, Texas

I don't know where Igor would leave to, I just think it's a possibility. Maybe he wants to chase as much money as possible. Maybe he doesn't think the group in front of him can get the job done. He saw firsthand what happened to Hank. I wouldn't be mad at him if he went to Texas.

Players do love playing in NY. That's a fact. I think Igor does like playing in NY. The organization treats players well and he's loved by fans and it's a great city. But it doesn't necessarily mean that he has to play his entire career here

Patrick Kane had a full NMC, when you have that clause, you get to make that decision, are you not aware of this?

Kakko has had 4 seasons and the best he has managed so far is 40 points. The shine has worn off him being a 2OA.

I'm not saying it's a bad package, but I am saying Otter doesn't get to decide where he goes if he demands a trade out of Dallas.

So what team is going to offer a better package for Oettinger than this one from NY?

Also you have no idea what's going on with the Rangers' window if you think we have a bad prospect system and the window is closing. The Rangers will be competitive as long as Fox is on the team and he's a Ranger for life. And the rebuild is still partially going on. When people like Zibanejad, Kreider, Trouba retire or leave they'll just be seamlessly replaced with Chytil, Lafreniere, Schneider for example. Drafting all 23 players on a roster isn't the only way to build. We will be absolutely fine with our young core accepting bigger roles, mixing in guys from other teams, and drafting more young talent like Perrault for example. That's why Drury is keeping all first round picks. Oettinger would be a great addition to the younger generation of Rangers and he would have no doubts.

And just how do you get a "vibe" from Igor at all? Do you know him personally? Have you spoken with him? Has he said anything negative about NYC or playing for the Rangers? If so, when and where?

Part of it is Igor's unwillingness to speak to the media. Which personally I have no problem with. I care more about his on-ice performance than about the extraneous BS. But it is a huge departure from the Hank days. Also, Hank was just more involved with the NY scene than Igor is. He was a huge part of the Garden of Dreams foundation -- I think he still is involved. Created his own foundation to benefit families in the city. Owns a bar in Tribeca. Is well known around the city as just a common, normal guy who interacts with fans and is always nice. And he had notorious friendships on the team I think he's still extremely close with Zuccarello in particular.

Igor just doesn't do that same stuff. And like I said I have no problem with it. He has a young family and other priorities. But he's definitely not all-in on New York the way Hank was and still is. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's not really attached and leaves. You can see how frustrated he gets with the current Rangers group sometimes. And rightfully so. It doesn't mean he has a negative view on the city or doesn't like playing on the Rangers. But he just might not be as into it as Hank was.

So you have established that Igor isn't Hank. My feeling about that is so what? Perhaps he isn't as out-going a human as Hank, or wants to be as high profile as Hank likes to be. None of that has any bearing in my opinion of his future as a Ranger. Hank comes from Sweden where he was probably taught English in school while Igor comes from Russia, which is a different world than Europe or America and he has to learn our language. Perhaps he needs a little more time to adjust to life in a big American city? And there are tons of athletes that do a tremendous amount of charity work behind the scenes without drawing attention to themselves, maybe that is Igor? I have also seen interviews with him and read articles about him where he talks about loving playing at MSG and hearing the chant...Igor....Igor. Plus, he has the best goalie coach in all of hockey and a legend in Hank to lean on when he needs advice or help with something. He is in perhaps the best spot he could possibly be in and I doubt very much he wants to leave unless Drury (or whatever GM is around) tries to low ball his next deal, which isn't going to happen. In fact, I would bet that Igor has a new deal in place before the start of the last season of his current deal. He isn't going anywhere.

I only make the Hank comparison because I think that we as NYR fans (I'm assuming you are one too) were spoiled by our experience with him, and expect the exact same out of Igor just because he's another young, generational goalie who is basically Hank's heir. When in reality, he might not be as dedicated to NY as Hank was. And that's completely his prerogative. I'm not saying one type of behavior is better than the other or holding it against Igor. I just think that Hank lived and breathed this city, he might as well have been Mr. New York, and I don't think Igor shares that passion. So while Hank stayed with us until he was sent away, I don't think it's out of the realm for Igor to leave on his own. I think money will be less of an issue than winning. I don't know if Igor believes in this group as a whole, or believes that he can win a Cup with the Rangers. So for that reason alone I wouldn't be surprised if he goes somewhere else. I think it's 50/50 on if he stays or goes

I don't think there is any goalie in history that was more competitive and wanted to win more than Hank and he stayed as long as he could and never would have left it was up to him. I have no reason to believe Igor will be any different in that regard. He is a competitor and wants to win but money and security are always a big concern as well as liking your team and organization. IMO, he isn't going anywhere.