MTL ain’t doing this
They won’t trade Kovacevic for a 2025 2nd round pick
How do you have De Haan in the AHL but Bogosian playing over him & Hayden Fleury as the 7th dman 🤣
Didn’t saw you sent down Raddysh as well 🤣
Dude just delete this

Why is Kovacevic > 2nd?

I would say the Habs don't want Myers, but Kovacevic is not worth a 2nd. Good player. Fit in well with the group, but he's nothing special.

Tampa Bay easily declines. Neither of those players are worth a 2nd to Tampa. And your over the cap. Tampa isn't using $1.8m of cap space on a backup goalie. Kovacevic isn't needed either. Bolts are pretty happy w/ Raddysh.

JBB on Lightning TV's "The Block Party" "Darren has worked really hard and done everything we've asked him to do ito improve" his 25:13 TOI during the playoffs second only to Sergachev says he will definitely be on the team. No chance TB spends 1.8 on a rested Vasilevskiy backup

I agree.

That being said, first Parayko now Myers. Why are people sending these oversized cones to Mtl? We have enough orange ones in our city.
Don't people see Mtl has enough bottom 4 dmen that it's the last thing we need?
If Tampa needs a goalie, sure take Desmith. I mean, we don't need him. But moving Kovacevic for that cone doesn't work.
How about Kovacevic and Desmith for a 2d?
That works for me. I think Kovacevic is worth a 3rd.

IDK, the 2nd is the best piece for them. Don't want Myers and don't want to trade Kovacevic, but at least Myers takes Kovacevic's spot in the line-up. DeSmith is excessive for Montreal and a 2nd is a useful piece for Montreal when they don't need to use a retention spot.

The realities of the cap are we need to take salary back.

Well, to be precise. It's moreso that TBL need to give away cap. In that case it should be a player that could help Mtl, like a TDL tradechip or an upgrade elsewhere. Mtl can't afford to be kind to TBL (again) haha. I don't think they will have trouble finding a home for Desmith or moving Allen.

Your 77k over only have a 22 man roster(still over) and completely screwed this team up please I would love to read some rational reasoning behind making these moves.

What are the chance that late 2nd round pick becomes a NHLer ? Kovacevic was real solid last year, he just turned 26 yo, 6’4 212 lbs ish. MTL have 3 RHD prospects/youngsters in Reinbacher Barron & Mailloux. If Mailloux is a bust, we need a RHD. We have one who plays good and fits the age core, and didn’t got injured last year. People over value draft picks here

You think moving Allen is going to be easy Bhahahahahahaha that's funny 1/2 retained you might get FC

Are you really trying to say that he's worth more than a second??

God I hate this website.

Kovacevic at this point is a good bottom-pair D-man, with a chance to be a good 4D. That's important, but not hard to find. We don't know if he will be that when Montreal is actually trying to compete or if Montreal will actually need him at that point. But the biggest thing is that his value right now is because he's a decent bottom pair D-man with two seasons of near league minimum salary.

And it doesn't matter if the 2nd has very little chance to be an NHLer. Its has consistent value prior to being used and its still a chance for a team that needs to take as many shots as they can to get higher-end talent.

I agree with almost everything you said outside : we don't know if he will be that when Montreal is actually trying to compete or if Montreal will actually need him at that point. Why not keep him ? We can resign him after his deal if he still plays solid. I know if he regress he won't be worth much since his play will downgrade or he won't be as cheap as he is right now. IMO MTL should keep him, simple as that. Even if Reinbacher, Barron & Mailloux are our future 3 RHD, Kovacevic could be #7-8. Jumps in when someone is injured

I am not saying that, I don't think you quoted the right guy. I am saying a 2025 TBL 2nd round pick is not enough value to trade DeSmith + Kovacevic (who is a good RHD making near league minimum for 2 years) who fits our age core + taking a body not needed in Myers

So in your hypothetical it makes more sense to pay Kovacevic around 1.5-2 mil AAV to be a 7-8 D-man instead of getting a 2nd? Why?

Because I expect us to start being competitive in 2025-2026 / 2026-2027
Having a dcore with Hutson-Reinbacher Guhle-Barron/Mailloux Xhekaj/Harris-Mailloux Barron is a good start. Having for exemple Xhekaj or Harris & Kovacevic as 7th and 8th dman is good
We don't know as well if Hutson and Mailloux will hit. Let's say worse case scenario Hutson & Mailloux flops big time, that leaves you with Guhle-Reinbacher Harris-Barron Xhekaj-Kovacevic and probably William Trudeau or Adam Engstrom as 7th dman. Losing Kovy hurt down the road if Mailloux doesn't become a solid NHLer

Honestly, that's a pretty terrible reason to forego a 2nd, not the least of which being that you can lose Kovacevic for nothing in that scenario anyways.

Fair. But you can't ignore that MTL needs to "give away" a goalie or bury one in the minors. So you cannot ask for much and that goalie is going to have a 1.8M cap hit.

In what scenario are we losing Kovacevic ?

In a scenario where he has the value of a 2nd rounder to you, why is he re-signing to be a 7-8 D-man?

I just explained, in case Mailloux and/or Hutson doesn't hit
But depending on the team offering the 2nd round pick, I would listen

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