Sheesh, talk about cherry picked stats, all I'm looking at are some blue bars.

Nobody on this website likes you Caniac. Look into the mirror.

Matthews is better but Petey makes a lot less and puts up almost the same amount of points which is why I have him ahead of MAtthews, just because of the contract

Toews gets carried by playing with Makar while Slavin has had a rotating cast of partners
Slavin isn't a big shot blocker because his defensive style is a lot more stick-checking based than Toews's is
Salvin also plays with a lot more finesse than Toews does which accounts for the lack of hits
NHL.com rankings and Norris voting are absolutely awful at actually ranking defensemen (they way overvalue points)

lol dudes just scrounging xga bar graphs trying to secure some sort of an argument

JFresh tracks 20 games a season, his model is a joke LMAO

u can literally look on his website, 20 games is a MINIMUM the player needs to have played lol. i think ur just a joke. slapping xga graphs into arguments trying to stretch some sort of argument lololol

ive never seen somebody get so clowned on in a forum and still think people enjoy his company

Look at the card LMAO. Topdown hockey only track 20-25 games a season. That's openly admitted when you look at that source. Guess you didn't want to deepdive too much LOLOLOL

What do Slavin, Toews, and Dahlin’s charts look like?

200 minutes works out to 20 games if a player played 10 minutes a game... if the entry requirement is THAT low, you should have serious concerns about the model. It's why I prefer EH and models that come straight from NST which track 82 games a player

u do realize the andy and rono card the guy up there posted derives percentiles from nst.... right? and ur point is moot considering Josi played full minutes so ur literally just cherry picking things... like always.

he wont show them. he'll only ever show an EH bar chart if theres a red bar because he can cherry pick it into his argument.

i dont pay 5 dollars a month to shoehorn in graphs in arguments so i couldnt find the others, but i found dahlins from last year.

he wont show it to u because of course, doesnt fit his narrative

LINK DOESNT WORK JUST LOOK HERE:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sabres/comments/13863y8/rasmus_dahlins_cards_from_multiple_analytics/

Not quite, A&R run their data through PuckIQ and ATZ. PuckIQ has the same issue in terms of game trackeding (even says so in their "About us" section") and All Three Zones is Corey Sznajder. who has the same issue in only tracking 20-25 games a season. He's openly admitted that on his Twitter feed. It's why I prefer pure NST data in a rate form. EH doesn't change anything, it literally just creates a graph to better show it. It would be no different if you looked it up on NST and saw the numbers. Corey's a Canes fan and I like him, but I find his model too inconsistent. Only tracking 25-40% of the players time on ice can be completely misleading.

not quite.

andy and rono use nst to derive percentiles using qot, qoc, zone starts, etc etc.

show us dahlin and toews' bar graphs?

https://www.reddit.com/r/sabres/comments/13863y8/rasmus_dahlins_cards_from_multiple_analytics/
dahlin^



slavin^

nevermind, found it. yeah, i bet slavin "mops the floor with him" hahahahhahah

EK don't belong. And Robertson at #1? Ehh I dunno, man.

They do, but taking that and running it through a second and third model with limited exposure destroys some of the credibility

i just posted the graphs. and they are not in favour of slavin.

i dont think ive ever seen you actually go out of your way to compliment a player who wasnt on the canes. you usually just say they are overrated.

and ur bar graphs show that with slavin hahahahaha

Whatever helps you sleep at night

yeah, show the 3 year weighted averages because it fits ur narrative better. not like he was subpar this season

moving the goalposts like always 😭😭😭

If that's what you're calling subpar... LMAO

dude slaps a graph into an argument but ignores all context.

sure, graphs look pretty but slavin is:

6 years older
played on marginally better teams
had much more time to develop

even if you want to talk about RIGHT NOW, Dahlin was better both offensively and defensively than Slavin last season on a much, much worse team.

dahlin also plays a higher quality of competition, worth noting.

keep slurping and glazing your mediocre team. current core hasn’t won anything but all of them are sooooo good apparently 💀

enjoy my ignore list kiddo.

It's not clear what you're trying to say here, but Puckiq.com tracks every game, not just 20-25 per season.

Agreeing with something that someone called doug ford is a confusing experience for me, but yeah.