is this the best top 9 in the atlantic

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Created by: gavinray

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2023

Published: Aug. 31, 2023

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Pinto, Shane		1	$1,750,000

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Tatar, Tomas		1	$2,000,000

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$80,904,047	$0	$1,850,000	$2,595,953

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Stützle, Tim $8,350,000$8,350,000 C UFA - 8	Tarasenko, Vladimir $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 7	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Tatar, Tomas $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $1,750,000$1,750,000 C RFA - 1	Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 1	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1	Zub, Artem $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Korpisalo, Joonas $4,000,000$4,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Brännström, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $805,000$805,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Hamonic, Travis $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 2

Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.

AlTintin1122

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With Tatar yes

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Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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I mean... on paper it's 8 guys with 20+ goals last year, and a guy who had 35 in 66 in his last full season. I have questions about the teams ability to support goaltending under DJ Smith, but on paper this team could go toe to toe against any team in the division

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Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:05 p.m.

Moss_Bucket

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Sens are definitely gonna pack a punch on offense this season, with Tatar it would possibly contend for top in the Atlantic.

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Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.

mk458

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It's a good top 9, but no

Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:10 p.m.

gavinray

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Quoting: mk458

It's a good top 9, but no

Who would you put on top and why?

Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:15 p.m.

HOCKEYBOY448

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Toss up between Sens and Leafs imo.

Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.

gavinray

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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448

Toss up between Sens and Leafs imo.

Leafs have a better top 6 but it'll be close this season. Still don't think they have a better top 9 imo esp with signing Tatar here

Aug. 31, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.

Leafsfan98

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No... Leafs are better all around top 9, same with Vegas, Devils, Avs, Stars etc.

Aug. 31, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.

Xspyrit

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Edited Sep. 1, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.

Quoting: mk458

It's a good top 9, but no

This is what these players paced for last season (except Norris it was in 2021-22) :

Tim Stützle 95 pts
Brady Tkachuk 83 pts
Claude Giroux 79 pts
Joshua Norris 68 pts
Drake Batherson 62 pts
Vladimir Tarasenko 59 pts
Tomáš Tatar 48 pts
Dominik Kubalík 46 pts
Shane Pinto 35 pts

So which teams have a better Top-9?

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Aug. 31, 2023 at 8:42 p.m.

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NoWah49

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I'd take Toronto, Buffalo, and maybe Tampa over this

Aug. 31, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.

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GMDannyB

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Flyers decline

Sep. 1, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.

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mk458

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Quoting: Xspyrit

This is what these players paced for last season (except Norris it was in 2021-22) :
Tim Stützle 95 pts
Brady Tkachuk 83 pts
Claude Giroux 79 pts
Joshua Norris 68 pts
Drake Batherson 62 pts
Vladimir Tarasenko 59 pts
Tomáš Tatar 48 pts
Dominik Kubalík 46 pts
Shane Pinto 35 pts

So which teams have a better Top-9?

Tampa's players scoring pace last season (keep in mind this is a more defensively sound group as well)

Kucherov 113 pts
Point 95 pts
Stamkos 85
Hagel 65
Cirelli 43
Sheary 37
Paul 33
Jeanot 19 (lol we know he'll score more this season)
Barre-Boulet (didn't play in the NHL, but had 84 pts in the AHL)

Ottawa's top 9 will definitely score more, I just love how defensively responsible some of Tampa's centers are. And IMO Kucherov is a gamebreaker that Ottawa doesn't have an answer for. But just my opinion, obviously both top 9s are amazing!

Sep. 1, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.

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Xspyrit

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Quoting: mk458

Interesting, you see that Ottawa has impressive secondary and tertiary scoring

But I agree that the "team defense" is still the weakness. Unfortunately with the team sale taking that much time, management and coaching staff hasn't been replaced yet. That's when they'll really take off IMO (well, if next ownership and management know what they're doing)

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Sep. 4, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.

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TCMonkey

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Send Parker Kelly down and bring up Smejkal. Put a little scoring on that 4th line...
Remove the 4th coming back to OTT.

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