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Initial Creation Date: Sep. 12, 2023
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What would the Habs be looking for in a Josh Anderson deal?
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
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All I saw in the Florida series was Bennet rag dolling Knies around. I also remember when Tkachuk punched Marner in the face and all he did was laugh. Gudas dumped Kampf to the boards, did anyone do anything?


Yeah, weird how your warriors in schenn and ror didnt do anything
Sep. 12, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
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Yes, coleman and goodrow were analytics darlings and luke schenn had decent bottom pairing analytics and was by far their leaat used defender and many moons ago savard was also very well regarded analytically until he got old and hurt.
So yeah, tampa loves analytics.
I also find your weird little blackwell thing funny, like he was an all effort motor of a 4th liner and he was fine but you're acting like dubas brought him in to play on the top line.


Why would you waste picks on players that no cup contender would go after? Where did he end up after Toronto? Was it Chicago? Why did no contender scoop him up after his amazing time in Toronto?

This is what I see in Dubas' analytical teams

Sep. 12, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.
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Why would you waste picks on players that no cup contender would go after? Where did he end up after Toronto? Was it Chicago? Why did no contender scoop him up after his amazing time in Toronto?

This is what I see in Dubas' analytical teams



The best part of this is you literally just said that dubas went against analytics last year and now youre using last year as proof that he loves analytics so so so much.
You are very bad at this
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.
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The best part of this is you literally just said that dubas went against analytics last year and now youre using last year as proof that he loves analytics so so so much.
You are very bad at this


I said he brought in warriors like ROR, Acciari, Schenn, McCabe and Lafferty. Holl was the biggest guy on the ice and was scared to approach Gudas lmao
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:02 a.m.
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They won the game Tkachuk did that so him punching Marner accomplished nothing. Bennet should have been suspended for that but the league doesn't ref in the playoffs


Suspensions in the playoffs? Now that's some pond hockey talk. This isn't regular season hockey
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:02 a.m.
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I said he brought in warriors like ROR, Acciari, Schenn, McCabe and Lafferty. Holl was the biggest guy on the ice and was scared to approach Gudas lmao


So why didnt ror or schenn or mccabe do anything? Arnt they warriors?
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:05 a.m.
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So why didnt ror or schenn or mccabe do anything? Arnt they warriors?


Schenn and McCabe weren't on the ice. If you're talking about why they didn't do anything after, why would they? They were losing the series 3-0 at that point and it's one of the reasons why Schenn left and ROR

They basically said that the room was quiet and not enough grit on this team by leaving
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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Can't understand why people on this site continue to act like Anderson is good - let alone actually worth any type of positive value.
I at least get Habs fans being delusional about him - that makes sense, but the rest of us have no excuse


He does the single most valuable thing a forward can do. Score goals at even strength.
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:08 a.m.
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Suspensions in the playoffs? Now that's some pond hockey talk. This isn't regular season hockey


Kadri was suspended for less, same with Bunting. The reffing in the playoffs is a joke. That's a huge problem the league needs to address. Turning it into a circus to entertain meat heads is terrible.
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:09 a.m.
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Schenn and McCabe weren't on the ice. If you're talking about why they didn't do anything after, why would they? They were losing the series 3-0 at that point and it's one of the reasons why Schenn left and ROR

They basically said that the room was quiet and not enough grit on this team by leaving


That's making up stuff to fit your rhetoric. At least be honest. Schenn left because no one else was dumb enough to offer him 2.75 million for 3 years. ROR was fine but he was hardly a difference maker. Letting him walk was fine.
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:09 a.m.
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Kadri was suspended for less, same with Bunting. The reffing in the playoffs is a joke. That's a huge problem the league needs to address. Turning it into a circus to entertain meat heads is terrible.


I don't see a problem with reffing. It's not the opponents fault that the Leafs can't handle playoff hockey
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Schenn and McCabe weren't on the ice. If you're talking about why they didn't do anything after, why would they? They were losing the series 3-0 at that point and it's one of the reasons why Schenn left and ROR

They basically said that the room was quiet and not enough grit on this team by leaving


So you're saying the warriors didn't do anything and quit because they were behind?
Loving the made up quote implications though, keep digging homes
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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He does the single most valuable thing a forward can do. Score goals at even strength.


He struggles to score 20 goals a year.

What the **** are you talking about?
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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That's making up stuff to fit your rhetoric. At least be honest. Schenn left because no one else was dumb enough to offer him 2.75 million for 3 years. ROR was fine but he was hardly a difference maker. Letting him walk was fine.


ROR was not a difference maker? If that's the case, man Dubas overpaid badly on Tavares, Nylander, Marner, Jarnkrok, Brodie, Kerfoot, and Giordano lol
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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So you're saying the warriors didn't do anything and quit because they were behind?
Loving the made up quote implications though, keep digging homes


They quit because they knew they would get the same treatment back if they were ever tossed around. They read the room and made a decision, it's a team sport (not a one man unit). It's unfortunate but understandable
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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I don't see a problem with reffing. It's not the opponents fault that the Leafs can't handle playoff hockey


Playoff hockey? Tampa goons it up all the time and didn't win. The leafs handled them. Florida was a side show and the refs let em do whatever. Physical play within the rules of the game are fine and I enjoy it but the nonsense after the whistles and blatant head shots and the rest should be stamped out. Gudas running Kampf seconds after the play is dead isn't playoff hockey that's a blatant attempt to injury and just goonery. It added nothing to the game. You must of loved when Gudas grabbed Jarnkrok's stick directly in front of the ref on the series clinching goal eh? Is that playoff hockey.
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:14 a.m.
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He struggles to score 20 goals a year.

What the **** are you talking about?


He is top 50 in es goals over the last 3 years
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:15 a.m.
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They quit because they knew they would get the same treatment back if they were ever tossed around. They read the room and made a decision, it's a team sport (not a one man unit). It's unfortunate but understandable


So, let me get this straight, these tough super gritty leaders were too scared of the soft calculators that they hid under their jackets because they didnt want to get yelled at, but at the same time josh anderson will come in and show them what for?
You're spinning bro
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:15 a.m.
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Playoff hockey? Tampa goons it up all the time and didn't win. The leafs handled them. Florida was a side show and the refs let em do whatever. Physical play within the rules of the game are fine and I enjoy it but the nonsense after the whistles and blatant head shots and the rest should be stamped out. Gudas running Kampf seconds after the play is dead isn't playoff hockey that's a blatant attempt to injury and just goonery. It added nothing to the game. You must of loved when Gudas grabbed Jarnkrok's stick directly in front of the ref on the series clinching goal eh? Is that playoff hockey.


Yeah, Leafs handled Tampa and even though we still got lucky in the win, the team didn't back down from any of the physical play. Same can't be said about the Florida series

As for the Gudas hit, if you don't like it, do something about it. Not his fault he's playing playoff hockey. If players don't like the physicality that happens, sign with a rebuilding team and stick with pond hockey in the regular season
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.
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So, let me get this straight, these tough super gritty leaders were too scared of the soft calculators that they hid under their jackets because they didnt want to get yelled at, but at the same time josh anderson will come in and show them what for?
You're spinning bro


Why would you defend your teammates when you know they won't have your back. You think ROR would defend guys like Tavares and Nylandr if Tavares and Nylander won't lift a finger of the guy that lets say threw a hit on ROR?

It's one of the reasons why ROR left. Quiet room, players don't stick up for each other. You think Vegas would allow Tkachuk to punch Eichel or get away with it?
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.
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He is top 50 in es goals over the last 3 years


He struggles to score 20 dude. Come the **** on
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Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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ROR was not a difference maker? If that's the case, man Dubas overpaid badly on Tavares, Nylander, Marner, Jarnkrok, Brodie, Kerfoot, and Giordano lol


Nylander was in fact a difference maker. He was the leafs best player in the 2nd round. JT scored the series clinching goal vs Tampa. ROR did score a game tying goal but that was after a super smart play by Nylander. What did Acciari do beyond hit everyone? He didn't score any big goals, didn't prevent any big goals.

Here's the thing, you can't just make up bull**** to fit your rhetoric and expect to be taken seriously.

I will admit, due to how brutal the league refs in the playoffs, you have to bring in some of your own goonery but it doesn't at all prevent other teams from going after your stars. Do you think Gudas changes his game at all because Reeves plays 5 minutes a night? Is he going to accept a fight from Reeves when the game is tied and he ran Marner? Nope, they won't change at all. Bennet is still going to go after everyone he can surprise. Tkachuk is going to attack star players. Will those guys tame it when a tougher goon is on the bench? Not at all, they will skate away from Reeves and he'll either take a stupid penalty and cost us or he'll just skate around after whistles yelling at guys and accomplish nothing. Like Jeannot did for Tampa. He made no difference in that series. Came in, threw a couple hits, fought Schenn and spent the rest of the series chirping everyone while making zero difference to help Tampa. Maroon trying to fight everyone he knows he can beat didn't help Tampa at all.

You are just seeing red and know nothing.
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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Why would you defend your teammates when you know they won't have your back. You think ROR would defend guys like Tavares and Nylandr if Tavares and Nylander won't lift a finger of the guy that lets say threw a hit on ROR?

It's one of the reasons why ROR left. Quiet room, players don't stick up for each other. You think Vegas would allow Tkachuk to punch Eichel or get away with it?


If you actually watched hockey you'd know that players do indeed punch and hit other players and get away with it all the time. Like every game, and yeah, vegas did too.
But back to the main point, why are your warriors such wimps? Cant stand up for themselves, cant stand up for their team mates. So soft
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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Yeah, Leafs handled Tampa and even though we still got lucky in the win, the team didn't back down from any of the physical play. Same can't be said about the Florida series

As for the Gudas hit, if you don't like it, do something about it. Not his fault he's playing playoff hockey. If players don't like the physicality that happens, sign with a rebuilding team and stick with pond hockey in the regular season


They didn't back down from Florida either. They lost to them because Keefe sucks. Florida did one thing that TO couldn't handle and it was quick strike offence coming off turnovers. Never hits or physical play, the give aways in the neutral zone or the bluelines killed them. They gave up nothing else to Florida. Keefe should have taken that away from them and turned themselves into more of a trap team. Had they done that they would have won each game 1-0 instead of trying to win 5-1 and losing 3-2. They didn't adjust until it was too late.

What can anyone do about the Gudas hit? Remember when Debrusk ran Marner back in the day? Kadri did something about it, and how did that turn out?
Sep. 12, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
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Nylander was in fact a difference maker. He was the leafs best player in the 2nd round. JT scored the series clinching goal vs Tampa. ROR did score a game tying goal but that was after a super smart play by Nylander. What did Acciari do beyond hit everyone? He didn't score any big goals, didn't prevent any big goals.

Here's the thing, you can't just make up bull**** to fit your rhetoric and expect to be taken seriously.

I will admit, due to how brutal the league refs in the playoffs, you have to bring in some of your own goonery but it doesn't at all prevent other teams from going after your stars. Do you think Gudas changes his game at all because Reeves plays 5 minutes a night? Is he going to accept a fight from Reeves when the game is tied and he ran Marner? Nope, they won't change at all. Bennet is still going to go after everyone he can surprise. Tkachuk is going to attack star players. Will those guys tame it when a tougher goon is on the bench? Not at all, they will skate away from Reeves and he'll either take a stupid penalty and cost us or he'll just skate around after whistles yelling at guys and accomplish nothing. Like Jeannot did for Tampa. He made no difference in that series. Came in, threw a couple hits, fought Schenn and spent the rest of the series chirping everyone while making zero difference to help Tampa. Maroon trying to fight everyone he knows he can beat didn't help Tampa at all.

You are just seeing red and know nothing.


Let's say Gudas throws that hit on game 1 of the series? You don't think Reaves won't be on his a** every shift that he's on for every game of the series? Let's say they both fight, they get out of the box together. They will be on the ice again

Leafs were intimidated by the Panthers. The entire point is based on intimidation, nothing more, nothing less. No one had an answer for Bennett, no one had an answer for Tkachuk. No one had an answer for Gudas. Why is that? They were scared to deal with the consequences if they got on the bad side of one of these guys. It's why Marner laughed when he got punched by Tkachuk, all he can do

Let's be real here, we got lucky with that Tampa series, we didn't deserve to win it. However, luck is sometimes what you need to win a series
 
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