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Team: 2023-24 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 22, 2023
Published: Sep. 22, 2023
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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You are right, thus isn’t a good idea… for Anaheim
Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.
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Dickinson and late picks don't get you Trevor Zegras out of Anaheim. And Zegras isn't a RW either. That offer would be easily blown away.
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Dickinson and late picks don't get you Trevor Zegras out of Anaheim. And Zegras isn't a RW either. That offer would be easily blown away.


I think you are right but im just curious what do you think would be a good trade for both sides
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.
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You are right, thus isn’t a good idea… for Anaheim


Not a good idea for either team. smile
Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: zizkfil75
I think you are right but im just curious what do you think would be a good trade for both sides


You're going to have to surrender pieces you won't want to give up, I'd imagine one of Nazar or Moore would need to be included. but that's only me.
Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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Not a good idea for either team. smile


It’s a wonderful idea for Chicago. Late first round picks and a bottom six player for a 1c
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
You're going to have to surrender pieces you won't want to give up, I'd imagine one of Nazar or Moore would need to be included. but that's only me.


i think your right on that part
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 11:01 a.m.
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Not a good idea for either team. smile


Great for CHI, they aren't even trading their own picks
Sep. 22, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
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It’s a wonderful idea for Chicago. Late first round picks and a bottom six player for a 1c


He would be a 2C for the Hawks.

Not a good idea for either team. As I said on another thread, the Hawks won’t want to pay the price it would take to acquire Zegras and I think time will show Zegras isn’t with that price.
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
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Not a good idea for either team.
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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Not enough quality for Anaheim and way to much quantity for Chicago. Neither team does this. Hawks are better off hoping to have one of Moore, Nazar, Reichel, or the '24 1st that is in all likelihood a top 5 pick turn into their very own Zegras on an ELC instead of already getting paid and without all those assets to build with.
Sep. 22, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.
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Now is not the time to entertain this type of move. The rebuild will take time to be done right. KD will stick to his plan, unless he gets an offer he can’t refuse. This is not 1 of those, not meant to slight Zegras, it’s just too significant a package for a rebuilding team to pay.
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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Quoting: YeahRighttt
Now is not the time to entertain this type of move. The rebuild will take time to be done right. KD will stick to his plan, unless he gets an offer he can’t refuse. This is not 1 of those, not meant to slight Zegras, it’s just too significant a package for a rebuilding team to pay.


Not only that but I thought Anaheim saw themselves as starting to be coming out of the rebuild (maybe a year or 2 away), this would set them back at least another year. You don't give up your best young player when coming out of a rebuild unless you get a deal that is "too good to pass up".

This is why I say it isn't a good idea for either team. Anaheim will want more for Zegras than Chicago would ever want to give up at this stage of their rebuild and I doubt Anaheim will ever get what they see as enough for Zegras. Anaheim isn't trading Zegras, just trying to wear him down to take a bit less money.
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Snowhawk18
He would be a 2C for the Hawks.

Not a good idea for either team. As I said on another thread, the Hawks won’t want to pay the price it would take to acquire Zegras and I think time will show Zegras isn’t with that price.


Zegras would be your 1c, unless you think Bedard is gonna be a ppg player in his rookie year, which is completely delusionnal.

Also, if he plays 2c doesn’t mean he doesn’t have 1c value. Just look at Draisatl and Stamkos
Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Zegras would be your 1c, unless you think Bedard is gonna be a ppg player in his rookie year, which is completely delusionnal.

Also, if he plays 2c doesn’t mean he doesn’t have 1c value. Just look at Draisatl and Stamkos


Time will tell how many points Bedard gets in his rookie season but he only needs 65 to reach Zegras’s career high which is well below a point per game and very doable.

To think the hottest prospect to come along since McDavid is going to come into a bottom feeder team and not get first line top PP opportunities is completely delusional, even with a 65 point one way centre on the team.
Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.
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Time will tell how many points Bedard gets in his rookie season but he only needs 65 to reach Zegras’s career high which is well below a point per game and very doable.

To think the hottest prospect to come along since McDavid is going to come into a bottom feeder team and not get first line top PP opportunities is completely delusional, even with a 65 point one way centre on the team.


To think Zegras can’t do better than 65 pts is delusionnal.

And even if you are the next Mcdavid doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get 1c, especially if there is already a 1c
Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
To think Zegras can’t do better than 65 pts is delusionnal.

And even if you are the next Mcdavid doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get 1c, especially if there is already a 1c


Ya you do. You actually think McDavid started on the 2nd line?

It is not out of the realm of possibility for Bedard to out score Zegras this season.
Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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Ya you do. You actually think McDavid started on the 2nd line?

It is not out of the realm of possibility for Bedard to out score Zegras this season.

The Oilers didn’t have a C close to Zegras. And until Bedard outscord him, Zegras is 1c.

Anyway this never happens cuz Zegras is staying in Anaheim
Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.
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The Oilers didn’t have a C close to Zegras. And until Bedard outscord him, Zegras is 1c.

Anyway this never happens cuz Zegras is staying in Anaheim


Yeah ok, they only had a young developing former #1 overall pick in RNH coming off of back to back 56 point seasons, the same RNH who just posted a 100 point season.

I will agree that Zegras isn’t leaving Anaheim but I think you are too heavily influenced by his YouTube videos.
Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:55 p.m.
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Yeah ok, they only had a young developing former #1 overall pick in RNH coming off of back to back 56 point seasons, the same RNH who just posted a 100 point season.

I will agree that Zegras isn’t leaving Anaheim but I think you are too heavily influenced by his YouTube videos.


Back to back 56 pts season, trully a 1c production
Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:46 p.m.
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Back to back 56 pts season, trully a 1c production


Players with 60 and 65 point back to back seasons aren’t usually considered true #1 centres either but that doesn’t support your delusion.
Sep. 22, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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Fun player, but he hasnt proved much yet. I'd rather take my chances with the 5 picks than Zegras, especially with were the Hawks are in the rebuild.
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Sep. 22, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.
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Players with 60 and 65 point back to back seasons aren’t usually considered true #1 centres either but that doesn’t support your delusion.


Zegras has more skills than RNH
 
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