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Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 29, 2023
Published: Sep. 29, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$7,000,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Zegras, Trevor [RFA Rights]
ANA
  1. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
  2. Olofsson, Victor
  3. Östlund, Noah
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (BUF)
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$76,848,570$0$5,220,000$6,651,430

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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
UFA - 7
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 3
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
G
RFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 7
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 29, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
Here come all the dads from North Tonawanda to yell at you
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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I would do that deal
Sep. 29, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: BUFF36
I would do that deal


Of course you would, it's a bunch of mid pieces for a high end talent. UPL hasn't shown anything yet, had a worse save percentage than Gibson (who we're told is garbage) and Anaheim has no place for. Olosson is an over paid winger set to be a UFA and Buffalo would love to move to get cap. Ostlund is a fine prospect but he's what? Buffalo's 5th or 6th best forward prospect. A first rounder that will be late two drafts from now.

Yeah, that's a big pile of mid. A tip for the CF crowd out there... if your Zegras package is 4-6 pieces long it is an instant no from Anaheim. The Ducks don't need a bunch of stuff that "adds up to" Zegras. They need Zegras or a player of equal value.
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Of course you would, it's a bunch of mid pieces for a high end talent. UPL hasn't shown anything yet, had a worse save percentage than Gibson (who we're told is garbage) and Anaheim has no place for. Olosson is an over paid winger set to be a UFA and Buffalo would love to move to get cap. Ostlund is a fine prospect but he's what? Buffalo's 5th or 6th best forward prospect. A first rounder that will be late two drafts from now.

Yeah, that's a big pile of mid. A tip for the CF crowd out there... if your Zegras package is 4-6 pieces long it is an instant no from Anaheim. The Ducks don't need a bunch of stuff that "adds up to" Zegras. They need Zegras or a player of equal value.


What do you expect to get for a unsigned RFA, Sabres don't need him and it's a decent offer. Go and beat it, doubt he gets traded but good luck not to many teams can afford him.
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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What do you expect to get for a unsigned RFA


I expect him to sign in Anaheim. The system is designed to give an RFA like Zegras who hasn't obtained arbitration yet very little leverage. He can sit and miss camp and maybe games and in doing so hurt himself as much or more than he hurts the team. Sitting out is a lose-lose and it is his only negotiating tactic.
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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I expect him to sign in Anaheim. The system is designed to give an RFA like Zegras who hasn't obtained arbitration yet very little leverage. He can sit and miss camp and maybe games and in doing so hurt himself as much or more than he hurts the team. Sitting out is a lose-lose and it is his only negotiating tactic.


Agree, expect him to sign to
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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This is a garbage offer and you know it. How about we take Savoie off your hands for Brayden Tracey, a second, and 3 4ths?
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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This is a garbage offer and you know it. How about we take Savoie off your hands for Brayden Tracey, a second, and 3 4ths?


Big difference, yes Zegras has proven his worth a bit. Savoie still has 3yrs left on entry level. And you are still getting a 1st a A prospect 2nd rnd pick and a perennial 20 goal scorer that you can flip at the deadline if need be.
Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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Ostlund is a fine prospect but he's what? Buffalo's 5th or 6th best forward prospect.


Sabes prospects pipelines is ridicoulous, and being 5-6th does not mean player is not high quality prospect. There are teams, who would love to have guys like Ostlund on top of their pipelines.
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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There are teams, who would love to have guys like Ostlund on top of their pipelines.


And the Ducks would love to have Quinn or Kulich or Benson at the top of theirs in place of Zegras. I'm kind of not seeing your point because this isn't about getting Ostlund in a vacuum. He's essentially the center piece to that proposed Zegras trade and he's no where near good enough to be that.
Sep. 29, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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And the Ducks would love to have Quinn or Kulich or Benson at the top of theirs in place of Zegras. I'm kind of not seeing your point because this isn't about getting Ostlund in a vacuum. He's essentially the center piece to that proposed Zegras trade and he's no where near good enough to be that.


If Anaheim - Zegras relationship is broken beyond repair, Sabres would love to add Zegras using depth of their prospect pool. Who else Ducks can call ?
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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If Anaheim - Zegras relationship is broken beyond repair


Ducks don't need to call any one. Zegras can get bent (in this highly unlikely scenario) and half the teams in the league will be calling the Ducks. They have the cap flexibility to make a deal work with almost any one they chose to.

Buffalo fans should be the first ones to understand this dynamic having watched the Eichel trade process first hand. The situations wouldn't be completely the same of course but at a high level they hit a lot of similarities like being a relationship broken beyond repair (again not saying Zegras-Anaheim is broken... just in this hypothetical).
Sep. 29, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.
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Buffalo may have players or prospects they value higher than Ostlund, but that doesn’t mean they have to offer them in a trade. Anaheim is the team with a ton of cap space, in search of more high-end prospects they can hope will pan out. Buffalo is in a pretty similar situation, but they have the cupboard full of prospects, so they are finally further along in their rebuild. Yes, plenty of teams will be calling about Trevor Zegras if he is actually available, but most of them will need Anaheim to eat considerable money in order to make the deal. Buffalo is one of the few they don’t have to do that with. That said, I expect Zegras will simply re-sign in Anaheim eventually, and there will not be a trade made at all this year. If he pushes for a short term bridge deal, and the team caves, you could see him traded in a year or two.
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Sep. 30, 2023 at 5:35 a.m.
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Big difference, yes Zegras has proven his worth a bit. Savoie still has 3yrs left on entry level. And you are still getting a 1st a A prospect 2nd rnd pick and a perennial 20 goal scorer that you can flip at the deadline if need be.


The only difference is that the Z one is obviously an underpayment whereas Savoie could possibly fall off of the development path he’s on and that value could actually end up being better than what he provides (unlikely as it is).

Anaheim isn’t trying to rebuild for 5 more years, we don’t want/need a mid 1st for top line 22 year old talent. It’s a garbage offer and we all know it.
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Sep. 30, 2023 at 5:50 a.m.
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The only difference is that the Z one is obviously an underpayment whereas Savoie could possibly fall off of the development path he’s on and that value could actually end up being better than what he provides (unlikely as it is).

Anaheim isn’t trying to rebuild for 5 more years, we don’t want/need a mid 1st for top line 22 year old talent. It’s a garbage offer and we all know it.


Well if you lose Zegras and the other one's I have seen with Drysdale you probably will be rebuilding for another 3 years. It might not be the best offer, but it's not garbage and Anaheim has pretty much done this to themselves. This is a bad time for teams having trouble signing players, there isn't a lot of teams that can afford him. Still think he signs in Anaheim, but it's only Garbage because you think you should get more. Most people do, just look at other trades and what they got. Tough landscape out there.
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