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Konecny for Lindholm

Created by: MrAicrow2009
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 17, 2023
Published: Oct. 17, 2023
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Note: i am not a flames fan
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Bump, Alex [Reserve List]
  2. Ersson, Samuel
  3. Konecny, Travis
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (PHI)
  5. 2024 4th round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Lindholm, Elias
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
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CGY
  1. Comrie, Eric
  2. Krebs, Peyton
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (BUF)
  4. 2024 7th round pick (BUF)
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Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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uh huh...
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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Quoting: CorrosionRF
uh huh...


What is the problem with the trade?
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: MrAicrow2009
What is the problem with the trade?


What is the logic behind thinking that Lindholm would end up with the Flyers? I can't see Lindholm wanting to sign and trade to the Flyers, and I can't see the Flyers wanting Lindholm as an expiring UFA if he doesn't.

Unless you're thinking that the Flyers flip Lindholm on a sign and trade of their own which nets them more than they would get for Konency on his remaining term. But that's pretty galaxy brain, even though it could be possible. But they'd be majorly in the hole if Lindholm burns them and walks, because Konency is their best player
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Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: MrAicrow2009
What is the problem with the trade?


If they trade Lindholm its for futures and the Flyers would want futures for TK anyway. Adding Coronato a trade isn't something the Flames should ever consider doing. Also trading a top 3 goalie prospect in the world for a 4 liner is not a good decision. I know you aren't a Flames fan but surely you could still see these are bad trades.
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:27 p.m.
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Really can't see the Flames doing this but I'd jump all over it if I was the Flyers. Coronato is a blue-chip prospect and can sell Lindholm for more futures. Organization is high on Ersson but they have plenty of goaltender prospects in the pipeline that I wouldn't mind moving him.
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: CorrosionRF
If they trade Lindholm its for futures and the Flyers would want futures for TK anyway. Adding Coronato a trade isn't something the Flames should ever consider doing. Also trading a top 3 goalie prospect in the world for a 4 liner is not a good decision. I know you aren't a Flames fan but surely you could still see these are bad trades.


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What is the logic behind thinking that Lindholm would end up with the Flyers? I can't see Lindholm wanting to sign and trade to the Flyers, and I can't see the Flyers wanting Lindholm as an expiring UFA if he doesn't.

Unless you're thinking that the Flyers flip Lindholm on a sign and trade of their own which nets them more than they would get for Konency on his remaining term. But that's pretty galaxy brain, even though it could be possible. But they'd be majorly in the hole if Lindholm burns them and walks, because Konency is their best player


Yes Dustin Wolf is a top 3 goalie prospect... in 2021 he is behind Askarov, Waldstet and Cossa

If i remove coronato would the trade work

Well with coutierer Injured i thought lindholm would be a good 2C
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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These Trades are incredibly bad for the Flames and lopsided in PHI & ARI’s favours

Maybe you don’t know Coronato & Wolf and the hype around them or that Dryden Hunt’s Wife is from and they live and have made a home in CGY

Also, it makes no sense. Lindholm isn’t going to want to play for a rebuilding Team and the Flames would now need a Centre far more than a RW if they move Lindholm
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
Really can't see the Flames doing this but I'd jump all over it if I was the Flyers. Coronato is a blue-chip prospect and can sell Lindholm for more futures. Organization is high on Ersson but they have plenty of goaltender prospects in the pipeline that I wouldn't mind moving him.


Ersson got to much money in his extension and he is pretty much there to balance the trade
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:37 p.m.
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Quoting: MrAicrow2009
Yes Dustin Wolf is a top 3 goalie prospect... in 2021 he is behind Askarov, Waldstet and Cossa

If i remove coronato would the trade work

Well with coutierer Injured i thought lindholm would be a good 2C

No, you should probably see where Cossa is now. A lot changes from year to year. He was playing in the ECHL last season. Fingers crossed he rebounds
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
These Trades are incredibly bad for the Flames and lopsided in PHI & ARI’s favours

Maybe you don’t know Coronato & Wolf and the hype around them or that Dryden Hunt’s Wife is from and they live and have made a home in CGY

Also, it makes no sense. Lindholm isn’t going to want to play for a rebuilding Team and the Flames would now need a Centre far more than a RW if they move Lindholm


Konecny would be 1W with Kadri and Huberdeau

Wolf is no longer a top goalie prospect
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
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Quoting: MrAicrow2009
Yes Dustin Wolf is a top 3 goalie prospect... in 2021 he is behind Askarov, Waldstet and Cossa

If i remove coronato would the trade work

Well with coutierer Injured i thought lindholm would be a good 2C


Behind Cossa? Ok well now I know your trolling lol
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:48 p.m.
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Behind Cossa? Ok well now I know your trolling lol


Trolling? No Cossa is a great goalie prospect and wolf is 22 and he has not done anything in the NHL yet
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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Trolling? No Cossa is a great goalie prospect and wolf is 22 and he has not done anything in the NHL yet


Lol
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:51 p.m.
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Trolling? No Cossa is a great goalie prospect and wolf is 22 and he has not done anything in the NHL yet

You may want to brush up on your research as it’s dated. Look up who the AHL Top Goalie and MVP of the League was last season. Only reason Wolf isn’t in the NHL is because Markstrom has a NMC and we’re waiting to trade Vladar for his proper value
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
You may want to brush up on your research as it’s dated. Look up who the AHL Top Goalie and MVP of the League was last season. Only reason Wolf isn’t in the NHL is because Markstrom has a NMC and we’re waiting to trade Vladar for his proper value


So why did they add Vladar in the first place
Though Cossa is still over Wolf
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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Is the Vladar trade better?
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.
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Yes Dustin Wolf is a top 3 goalie prospect... in 2021 he is behind Askarov, Waldstet and Cossa

If i remove coronato would the trade work

Well with coutierer Injured i thought lindholm would be a good 2C


Removing Coronato would remove all incentive for the flyers to do that trade.

Couturier isn't injured and even if he was they would have no need for Lindholm because flyers are rebuilding.
Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
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What a God awful trade for buffalo
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Oct. 17, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Roperttos
Removing Coronato would remove all incentive for the flyers to do that trade.

Couturier isn't injured and even if he was they would have no need for Lindholm because flyers are rebuilding.


If i added, say Peltier or Zary would the flyers Accept
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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Quoting: MrAicrow2009
So why did they add Vladar in the first place
Though Cossa is still over Wolf

They had no idea how good Wolf would be yet. -/ he only had 3 AHL games under his belt when they brought Vladar in to be the backup

The better question might be why did they re-sign Vladar then to which I would say Thankfully that GM no longer works for the Flames. We’re trying to move Vladar to make space for Wolf, but haven’t received the right offer yet and there’s no rush. Wolf is Young and continues to get tons of playing time
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
They had no idea how good Wolf would be yet. -/ he only had 3 AHL games under his belt when they brought Vladar in to be the backup

The better question might be why did they re-sign Vladar then to which I would say Thankfully that GM no longer works for the Flames. We’re trying to move Vladar to make space for Wolf, but haven’t received the right offer yet and there’s no rush. Wolf is Young and continues to get tons of playing time


And who might that GM be?
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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Vladar doesn’t get that kind of return
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Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.
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Why does every team think they can get Krebs for almost nothing. He’s a good defensive forward at 22 years old. Vlader is worth a 3rd, maybe 2nd at most if Cal finds a desperate team.
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
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Why does every team think they can get Krebs for almost nothing. He’s a good defensive forward at 22 years old. Vlader is worth a 3rd, maybe 2nd at most if Cal finds a desperate team.


2nd if he’s half retained
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:41 p.m.
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2nd if he’s half retained


Why would you retain a deal less than 3m
 
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