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Deal or no Deal

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 23, 2023
Published: Oct. 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,400,000
Trades
CBJ
  1. Järventie, Roby
  2. Pinto, Shane
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
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Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$80,252,380$0$3,700,000$3,247,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2

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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:35 p.m.
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Prime Primeau
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This is such an easy decision for Columbus
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:36 p.m.
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Danny B is here
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I’m gonna to die of laughter reading these replies that try to justify Pinto somehow being more valuable. This does feel a tad heavy if a return for CBJ tho.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:37 p.m.
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Can’t really see cbj being interested in moving Kent unless it’s for a similar caliber young player. Pinto is good but doesn’t have the upside
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.
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Dolzhenkov Is Coming
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No deal. Kj is two years younger and has outperformed Pinto already and the Jackets need quality, not quantity.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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I don't have a dog in this fight. That being said, if I'm Ottawa I make the trade but if I'm CBJ I pass.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
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I'd pass if I were CBJ
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 23, 2023 at 10:22 p.m.
OP, NEVER break up Norris and Batherson



Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Johnson - Norris - Batherson
Joseph - Greig - Tarasenko

Quoting: Friendly_Cannon
Can’t really see cbj being interested in moving Kent unless it’s for a similar caliber young player. Pinto is good but doesn’t have the upside

I think there's a decent chance that Jarventie ends up the better player though. Pinto's value is in his projectability. He's not going to be close to PPG but think of a Danault-Backes hybrid. Jarventie has a legit Top-6 skillset and a deadly shot

Some of the usuals will **** on this package but it has a lot of value. Jarventie took a gigantic step since last season, he just turned 21 y/o, he's NHL ready and was one the Sens best players in training camp. Looked deadly with Batherson.

I wouldn't trade Pinto and Jarventie if it wasn't worth it but KJ is worth it. I wouldn't do it if I was Columbus though, never trade the best asset unless you're forced to
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
OP, NEVER break up Norris and Batherson



Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Johnson - Norris - Batherson
Joseph - Greig - Tarasenko


I think there's a decent chance that Jarventie ends up the better player though. Pinto's value is in his projectability. He's not going to be close to PPG but think of a Danault-Backes hybrid. Jarventie has a legit Top-6 skillset and a deadly shot

Some of the usuals will **** on this package but it has a lot of value. Jarventie took a gigantic step since last season, he just turned 21 y/o, he's NHL ready and was one the Sens best players in training camp. Looked deadly with Batherson.

I wouldn't trade Pinto and Jarventie if it wasn't worth it but KJ is worth it. I wouldn't do it if I was Columbus though, never trade the best asset unless you're forced to


Agreed with the opinion of the package. It's quite good and arguably has more overall value. I just don't think it makes sense for Columbus given the sheer amount of quality prospects they have. Guys like Dumais, Del Bel Belluz, Brindley all are in the system and have good outlooks. Obviously you don't expect every prospect to pan out, but they've got a ton of these very good, but not great prospects that I'm comfortable they'll be able to fill needs in the coming years. What they really need is the star power. Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson working out and being high impact players. Pinto is a quality player 100%, but doesn't have the same ceiling as Johnson and is 2 years older so I don't think it makes sense for Columbus to downgrade that ceiling for more help where I think they're fine already.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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Agreed with the opinion of the package. It's quite good and arguably has more overall value. I just don't think it makes sense for Columbus given the sheer amount of quality prospects they have. Guys like Dumais, Del Bel Belluz, Brindley all are in the system and have good outlooks. Obviously you don't expect every prospect to pan out, but they've got a ton of these very good, but not great prospects that I'm comfortable they'll be able to fill needs in the coming years. What they really need is the star power. Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson working out and being high impact players. Pinto is a quality player 100%, but doesn't have the same ceiling as Johnson and is 2 years older so I don't think it makes sense for Columbus to downgrade that ceiling for more help where I think they're fine already.

Yeah, important for a team in CBJ position to keep the guys with the highest upside, need to establish a core. Like I said, there's a possibility that Jarventie ends up the most productive guy but it's also far from guarantied and Columbus would be silly to take that risk.
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