Gross, he's not worth 10M

No one is packaging all their trade chips. Leafs also aren't moving Nylander while pushing for the playoffs and cups, similarly how Calgary didn't trade Gaudreau the year they won the Pacific. If the Leafs want Tanev then they can pay a good prospect or their first round pick, Neimala or their pick. If they want to dump Klingberg then they can add a 2nd or put a prospect like Voit or Steeves because taking on Klingberg is strictly a favour move for cap reasons so Toronto can continue to add.

Tanev @ 50% for Neimala OR a 1st
Tanev for Klingberg, 1st, Voit

That’s probably the minimum Nylander wants, but what do you think and is he a good target or no!? I personally think Reinhart might be the better target, since he’ll be cheaper and already has history with Huberdeau

Any elite talent coming in would have to get 10.5 to match Huby wouldn't they? I believe that's what his ask was rumored to be. I would be terrified that it doesn't work or he takes his money and turns into a punkin.

Leafs decline in a heartbeat, way too much for 0 purpose, wasting Lindholm at 2RW or 3C cause he isn’t playing higher in the line-up or probably doesn’t match Willy’s current rate of production, Dubé takes Robby’s spot-on the 3rd line at best which he doesn’t need to, We Tried Hunt didn’t like him & don’t need him, Tanev is the only piece here the Leafs would actually look at, Also Lilly & Willy aren’t being moved at all but you already know this

How about this, say 2024 1st + 2026 3rd, Voit, Timmins & Klingberg for Tanev 50%?

Not with the loss of Lindholm, its counterproductive

Nylander only makes sense for Calgary if he comes with an extension AND we have Lindholm extended long term. Trading Lindholm for Nylander makes absolutely no sense at all.

Leafs decline quickly

Agreed, I was just tired of the constant & daily + extremely weak TOR AGM's for Tanev, so made this one to get their reactions lol


Is it just me or does Lindholm seem completely checked out of Calgary already!? Watching his facial expressions on the ice, bench and walking on to the ice or back to the locker room, he just doesn't seem very happy or interested right now

What are your thoughts on Niemela!? He's undersized for the NHL and doesn't really fit our identity, no!? Same goes for Voit. What do we need another Left Winger for and a scrawny one at that!?

I think we get a better 1st Round Pick and/or Prospect from another Team for Tanev. Liljegren is more intriguing, but some guys aren't sold on him becoming the player he was projected too either. He hasn't been able to step up and face stiffer competition like they need him too. He's obviously not trusted by the coaching staff to play certain situations

He's the same size as 26 year old Kylington while maybe giving up 5 pounds. Kylington's draft profile has him as the same height and lighter than Niemala and they fit a very similar profile, I think getting a good skating puck moving D man on the right side as opposed to the left is a bit of an albatross. You can fill out the LD through free agency and the draft fairly easily but Neimala would be a really nice fit in the pipeline and the roster in the window that the Flames would need him more than Liljegren.

Agreed they can get a better pick and they should be doing everything the can to acquire Edmonton's right now. If you are getting the Leafs 1st then the prospect will be a lottery ticket. He has very similar numbers in junior as Phillips did, he's got a bigger frame and can get bigger than Phillips though. Not much but at least add some muscle. Voit could become something but likely a good AHL piece with some offensive upside that pushes for a spot in a pinch.

Yeah, European Players, especially D-Men and especially of the Finnish Variety (remember Valimaki) make me nervous. Kylington was skilled, could skate and stick check, but his transitions and overall strength were brutal. I prefer North American D-Men who are used to playing the smaller ice surface and more physical game of hockey personally. That said, we are lacking depth at RD, so any addition there would be nice.

Obviously there's room in the game for skilled smaller guys and Gaudreau proved that, but after the whole Matthew Phillips fiasco, I feel like you can draft someone with Height who will eventually bulk up, but we should stay away from Drafting or Bringing in Small Guys. We already declined to qualify Jack beck and Rory Kerins who was similarly successful offensively to Voit in the OHL isn't really doing much in the AHL either, so Voit's just not a guy that really peaks my interest. Abruzzese would be better imo

Yes, I definitely see value in Trading Tanev to EDM who's 1st Round Pick will for sure be more valuable than TOR's. I'm not ready to give up on our season just yet, but I do see the value in moving Tanev now while he's Healthy instead of waiting and something happening that brings his value down. At least we should be able to get Ceci back as a replacement player to keep going, with the ability to Trade him in the off-season or flip him next season. Liljegren would have been a replacement player too, but TOR Fans are balking at moving him and now he's injured, so he's not as appealing

Small sample size but it looks like Niemala is transitioning to the NA game really well in the AHL already, perhaps better than Kylington. I think the ceiling there is higher than either Valimaki or Kylington.

I don't think the Flames have given up on the season, in reality they're 4 points out of a wild card with 75+ games to play and a goaltender that's giving them a shot every night. I do think they should look at what Nashville did last season with the Ekholm, Jeannot, Nino trades. They acquired futures while keeping a team on the ice that was competitive to the end of the year. Calgary has enough pieces that they can turn this around very very quick, ideally when the new rink is opening.

Kylington has very high end speed and will take a hit to make a play. He gets knocked down a bit too easily but no matter how many times he gets knocked down he always gets back up and doesn't shy away from getting hit again. Also we have Poirier in the system bigger and more skilled than than Kylington / Niemela. Behind Poirier is 2023 draft pick Morin another excellent offensive defenseman prospect.

All on the left side. It would be a good problem to have to have too much depth with mobile d man that transition well. I hope we see Poirier in the NHL this season.

If Hanifin's looking for $7mil/yr+, I'd like to move him and keep Zadorov, which would open up a space to acquire Jake Bean to compete with Poirier (I'd say Kylington as well, but I doubt we see him play for the Flames ever again at this point)

Another Guy I'd like to Trade Hanifin for is Ryan Graves + a Pick/Prospect if possible, he might make Zadorov expendable too. Maybe Zadorov signs long-term for $2.75-3.75 x 3-6yrs!?

Then it'd become a competition between Gilbert & Solovyov for that last Roster spot