we need to tank tbh

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Created by: jruf

Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 8, 2023

Published: Nov. 8, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

at this point, i think we need to tank this year because we are just not good enough for playoffs. we are the most mid team in the league. we wont make ploffs but we would be to good to have a top 10 pick. Try to trade vets for draft picks to build a great draft capital and go from there. Get the rookies ready to play towards the end of the season. Hopefully dvorsky makes it to the show next year or sometime in the middle of the year cuz that would help out a ton.

Trades

STL

2024 2nd round pick (SEA)
2024 6th round pick (SEA)

Additional Details:

In need of scoring

SEA

Vrána, Jakub ($1,000,000 retained)

STL

2025 3rd round pick (BOS)
2025 7th round pick (BOS)

BOS

Hayes, Kevin

STL

2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
2024 6th round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

send him home

PIT

Saad, Brandon ($1,000,000 retained)

STL

2024 6th round pick (SJS)

SJS

Scandella, Marco

Additional Details:

go away

STL

2024 4th round pick (DAL)
2024 5th round pick (DET)
2025 7th round pick (STL)

DET

Krug, Torey

Additional Details:

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DETROIT I JUST WANT HIM GONE for the same value

STL

2024 4th round pick (TOR)
2024 7th round pick (TOR)

TOR

Retained Salary Transactions

Jakub Vrána: $1,000,000 (38.1%)
Brandon Saad: $1,000,000 (22.22%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$68,709,583	$20,000	$432,500	$14,790,417

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Buchnevich, Pavel $5,800,000$5,800,000 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Thomas, Robert $8,125,000$8,125,000 C, RW UFA - 8	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 1
Neighbours, Jake $835,833$835,833 LW, RW RFA - 2	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Kyrou, Jordan $8,125,000$8,125,000 RW UFA - 8
Walker, Nathan $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 1	Sundqvist, Oskar $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Toropchenko, Alexey $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW RFA - 2
McGing, Hugh $775,000$775,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Alexandrov, Nikita $816,667$816,667 C RFA - 1	Blais, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Bolduc, Zachary $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) LW RFA - 3
	Dean, Zach $852,500$852,500 ($32,500$32K) C RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Perunovich, Scott $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 1	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 4	Binnington, Jordan $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NTC UFA - 4
Leddy, Nick $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Parayko, Colton $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 7	Hofer, Joel $775,000$775,000 G RFA - 2
Rosén, Calle $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1	Tucker, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
	Kessel, Matthew $883,750$883,750 RD RFA - 1

Nov. 8, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.

SupremeBone

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No better way to tank than to send Binnington to EDM for Campbell

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Nov. 8, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Josh Anderson Sucks

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Islanders more mid but I agree. STL could tank and would be in a really good spot for the future

Nov. 8, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.

pens1991

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would happily take Saad but the Blues would need to probably retain more + take salary back, pens don't have the cap.

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Nov. 8, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.

aedoran

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If you want to tank trading old and underperforming players isn't the right move. Those are the players you give more ice time.

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Nov. 8, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.

TheEarthmaster

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Joined: Jun. 2018

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These moves, they'll help get miscellaneous assets (maybe), but those players are doing more to help the tank rather than hurt it. If you want to tank, you need to attack the parts of the roster that are keeping the Blues halfway competitive. The Blues are in the middle because Binnington is putting up herculean numbers and because Buchnevich, Thomas and Kyrou are still putting up points. Assuming you're not moving Thomas and Kyrou and Binnington will exercise his clause, that leaves you with one player that would make the team significantly worse.

At some point the Blues need to have an uncomfortable conversation about whether or not it makes sense for this team long term to move Buchnevich.

Nov. 8, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.

TheEarthmaster

Good Opinion Haver

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Quoting: aedoran

If you want to tank trading old and underperforming players isn't the right move. Those are the players you give more ice time.

Krug and Scandella 22 minutes a night will get you tanking real quick lol

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Nov. 8, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.

Mr_Gardoki

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Quoting: pens1991

would happily take Saad but the Blues would need to probably retain more + take salary back, pens don't have the cap.

Uhhh no, they wouldn't. Saad is cooked. Pass.

Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.

Redstinger

Joined: May 2019

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Detroit passes. You have to pay to get rid of krug and we don't need him.

Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.

jruf

Thread Starter

Joined: Mar. 2023

Posts: 162

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Quoting: Redstinger

Detroit passes. You have to pay to get rid of krug and we don't need him.

i know thats why is said it doesnt have to be detroit

Nov. 8, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.

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ON3M4N

Joined: May 2016

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Boston doesn't have the cap space. STL would need to retain and/or take money back.

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