Potential way to get Kane Hanifin

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Created by: Slendermin

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 16, 2023

Published: Nov. 16, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Not sure this is even a good idea, but it was a thought I had ... Leafs are in a unique position as they could care less what they have to pay Kane over the term of a longer contract. Realistically Kane probably knows it's unlikely he plays past next year and if he does, then great, you've got Patrick Kane for $3M. If not, he goes on LTIR and adds another $12M to his career earnings., which I'd expect is a lot higher in actual dollars than anyone else would offer him on a 1-2 year deal. Total guesswork, but I'd imagine someone will offer him $5-6M on a 1-year deal, maybe $4M x 2.

Hanifin seems to make sense for this team and Robertson may just be showing enough promise to finally get some value out of him. Not sure Calgary likes him though, so might have to be a bigger trade involving more parts (Liljegren and Zadorov maybe?).

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kane, Patrick		4	$3,050,000

Trades

TOR

Hanifin, Noah ($2,475,000 retained)
2024 3rd round pick (CGY)

CGY

Klingberg, John
Robertson, Nicholas
2024 1st round pick (TOR)

Buried

Ryan Reaves: $200,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$79,772,283	$0	$0	$3,727,717

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kane, Patrick $3,050,000$3,050,000 RW UFA - 1
McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$3,550,000 G UFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah -$1,237,500-$1,237,500 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Lagesson, William $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Benoit, Simon $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 1

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.

Kinger25

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Flames likely decline but if Robertson is getting traded this would be the trade I’d want, but Hanifin hasn’t been linked to the leafs once and likely won’t waive

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.

Hckeydude123

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Calgary aint giving up Hanifin 50% retained with a 3rd for a traffic cone a injury prone middle 6 winger and a 1st no chance.

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.

WranglerWranglin

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Robertson is not interesting at all in a deal, undersized, left shot, can't stay healthy and plays the same position where the Flames have Pelletier, Honzek, Zary, all of which are 22 or younger. Robertson doesn't fit a need whatsoever.

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.

DRW2025

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Add a 1st+ for the trade.

Kane isn't set to meet with TML so I think it's a stretch he will go there.

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.

Slendermin

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Quoting: Hckeydude123

Calgary aint giving up Hanifin 50% retained with a 3rd for a traffic cone a injury prone middle 6 winger and a 1st no chance.

Fair enough .. Let me ask you this, how would your view change if Robertson continues at a point-per-game pace for like another ~15-20 games with no injuries? He's gotten pretty unlucky and hasn't had a decent enough run in the NHL to firmly categorize him as a middle six winger, IMO. Would you be interested in a 22-year old, former OHL goal scoring leader (55G in 46 games), who hasn't really had a real chance until now, and is putting up top line numbers in exchange for your 2-3 Dman who we're assuming (in this scenario) will walk in the offseason? 1st for a 3rd is in exchange for paying Klingberg $1M to singlehandedly increase your draft position lol

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.

Slendermin

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Quoting: Kinger25

Flames likely decline but if Robertson is getting traded this would be the trade I’d want, but Hanifin hasn’t been linked to the leafs once and likely won’t waive

Ya it's maybe unlikely, but figured I'd throw it in to make the $$$ work. What do you think of the Kane strategy?

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.

Slendermin

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Quoting: DRW2025

Add a 1st+ for the trade.

Kane isn't set to meet with TML so I think it's a stretch he will go there.

Are the reports that he already met with them false? Honest question, since it's hard to know what to believe these days lol

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Kane will be signed some time this month. Calgary doesn't have remotely enough cap space to do this unless they make other trades first. Which won't happen since they are on record to not be rushing anything

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.

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Add Niemela and I would do it.

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Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.

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Quoting: WranglerWranglin

I think both Honzek and Zary have the potential to move to center. I would have interest in Robertson but I would have more interest in Liljegren, Minten, or Niemela from Toronto. I would take Robertson over Cowen though

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Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.

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Slendermin

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Quoting: Traptor

Add Niemela and I would do it.

I think Leafs would consider it with a Hanifin extension in place.

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Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.

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Quoting: Slendermin

Ya it's maybe unlikely, but figured I'd throw it in to make the $$$ work. What do you think of the Kane strategy?

I’m not interested in Kane forwards are firing on all cylinders why mess with that but there is a chance he signs with us

Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.

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Quoting: WranglerWranglin

I mean, he puts it in the net, we could use that. I do agree that we have more than enough undersized left shots and mixing him in just over complicates a mediocre mess of middle 6 guys.

Nov. 16, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.

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Quoting: Slendermin

Are the reports that he already met with them false? Honest question, since it's hard to know what to believe these days lol

Well the guy who said it happened said it didn;t

Nov. 16, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Minten would be the one I would target out of that group, the Flames are a mushy mess of 20 - 22 year old middle 6 prospects, Minten buys you some more years of control as opposed to Robertson and the Flames could fit him in a new core age much better. I personally don't have much interest in Robertson, I shouldn't say "the Flames have no interest" cause I have less than zero clue.

Quoting: oilfire

I mean, he puts it in the net, we could use that. I do agree that we have more than enough undersized left shots and mixing him in just over complicates a mediocre mess of middle 6 guys.

Mediocre mix of a middle six is a perfect way of putting it. The pipeline is similar to the roster in that there is zero punch outside of hopefully Coronato.

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Nov. 16, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.

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Quoting: WranglerWranglin

Klapkas big and scores, I don't know what he'll be in the NHL, sounds like most people cap him as a bottom 6 guy but who knows. All I know is somebodys gotta go.

Nov. 16, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.

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Slendermin

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Quoting: Kinger25

I’m not interested in Kane forwards are firing on all cylinders why mess with that but there is a chance he signs with us

Ya I really don't think Kane would add much to this group. I just put it together cause I thought it was an interesting chance for the Leafs to use their financial might, in a cap world.

I wouldn't say the forwards are firing on ALL cylinders since defence is a "cylinder" after all, but they have looked much better in the last two games anyways.

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