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Created by: calgaryman
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 20, 2023
Published: Nov. 20, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Moser, J.J.
  2. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,425,000 retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Höglander, Nils
  2. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Duehr, Walker
  2. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. 2026 2nd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Vladar, Daniel ($1,100,000 retained)
4.
CGY
  1. Fehérváry, Martin
  2. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Lindholm, Elias ($2,425,000 retained)
5.
CGY
  1. Klingberg, John
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita ($1,855,000 retained)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
  3. 2026 3rd round pick (CGY)
6.
CGY
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Dubé, Dillon ($1,150,000 retained)
  2. Klapka, Adam
  3. Tatar, Tomas
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (CGY)
  5. 2026 2nd round pick (COL)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the NYI
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
2025
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
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2026
Logo of the CGY
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$84,831,666$0$227,500-$1,331,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$886,667$886,667
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$2,675,000$2,675,000
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1

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Nov. 20, 2023 at 6:11 a.m.
#1
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Lost me on the last 2 trades.

CGY only takes Klingberg to get the 1st out of tor, why would you give up 2 3rds? Zadorov is probably worth a really good 3rd or a late 2nd with retention, or a 1st with a cap dump like Klingberg, but again, why would you add 2 3rds?

Pageau and a 1st is not worth those players, who are collectively meh AND 2 2nds. So forget the 2 3rds in the TOR deal and dont do the NYI deal and while you've only lost 1 1st and a middling 3C, you've gained 2 2nds and 2 3rds. Its just too much for Pageau, who NYI probably needs to shed his salary anyways

Also, you can only retain on 3 players, not the 6 you have above, which changes things dramatically.

And bear in mind theres only so much icetime/development time at any given point and you'd rather have your picks spread through a few years, rather than 1 year of 6 1sts and not much else over the next few years/rounds.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 6:42 a.m.
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You only have 3 retention slots so that doesn’t work

Everything feels like a bit of an overpay to me though
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Nov. 20, 2023 at 7:03 a.m.
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Moser isn't going anywhere, he's just as valuable or more valuable than Hanifin on the open market.

I might be sleeping on Feheravy, but even if he's an amazing DFD, that's not the return that CGY should be looking to get out of Lindholm.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 7:15 a.m.
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Absolutely not from the Avs. Vladar is worth at best a mid round pick.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 7:17 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise

CGY only takes Klingberg to get the 1st out of tor, why would you give up 2 3rds? Zadorov is probably worth a really good 3rd or a late 2nd with retention, or a 1st with a cap dump like Klingberg, but again, why would you add 2 3rds?


Even if those two CGY 3rds end up up being 65 OV and the Leafs' 1st 32OV the difference is still a 2nd pick (17-18), so it's like getting the Leafs 2nd+ a 3rd (75th OV) for Zadorov. So, it's a pretty good deal for the Flames considering that in a bubble Klingberg is probably just as valuable as Zadorov, and the fact that there's a lot of upside to him but if he doesn't do well then it doesn't matter since his deal is expiring.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 7:27 a.m.
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There's no reason for Arizona to trade a first for Hanifin - they're on the bubble for a playoff spot, he's a rental that likely would not re-sign there, and he has an 8-team no-trade that 99% has Arizona on it.
There's no reason to make that big of a push when they're still building.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 8:15 a.m.
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Canucks pass.Not trading our first for Tanev.Hes 34 often injured and past his prime.Hes also a UFA at seasons end. we can keep our pick n sign him then IF we sign him.Just my opinion.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 8:58 a.m.
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Caps pass. The only players they'd be interested in from CGY would be Mangiapane and Andersson.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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Selling low on all Flames players. Also teams can only have 3 retained salaries on the books at once.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 8:37 p.m.
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Avs decline
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