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Habs weekend trades

Created by: JeffGorton
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 23, 2023
Published: Nov. 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
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2.
MTL
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Cap works if they send down one of their 14 forwards but this trade could wait a few weeks so the Devils have even more cap
NJD
  1. Allen, Jake ($1,925,000 retained)
3.
CBJ
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Pearson, Tanner
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
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Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the WSH
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DET
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$83,581,249$1,170,000$4,917,500-$81,249
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C, RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2

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Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Campbell and Primeau would probably be the worst tandem in the NHL... Habs more than likely just trading one of Montembeault or Allen, not both.

See what LAK paid for Dubois for what it would cost for Laine (not that they are comparable, but the asking price would still be the same imo).... no thank you.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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I think that’s fair. I’d even consider throwing in a low level prospect
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Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Campbell and Primeau would probably be the worst tandem in the NHL... Habs more than likely just trading one of Montembeault or Allen, not both.

See what LAK paid for Dubois for what it would cost for Laine (not that they are comparable, but the asking price would still be the same imo).... no thank you.


Laine is nowhere near Dubois. Laine has a bad contract and really stinks 5v5. I only want him for his finishing and the maybe he becomes elite again. If 2 good young players, a 2nd and a 3rd is not enough, then the Jackets are gonna lose him for nothing in 3 years

And i want a bad goalie tandem, im not trying to compete. Im trying to tank
Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Two years of Allen at $1.9m is probably worth a 2nd. Seems fair to me.
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Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Laine is nowhere near Dubois. Laine has a bad contract and really stinks 5v5. I only want him for his finishing and the maybe he becomes elite again. If 2 good young players, a 2nd and a 3rd is not enough, then the Jackets are gonna lose him for nothing in 3 years

And i want a bad goalie tandem, im not trying to compete. Im trying to tank


Oh back to the tank talk, yippee. Habs aren’t rolling with Primeau and Campbell. We’re not at the fighting for a playoff spot yet but we’re also past the tanking phase. Team has to progress or players and fans will just tune out.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Two years of Allen at $1.9m is probably worth a 2nd. Seems fair to me.


I'd pay a 3rd tops. Just don't see the comps there to justify a 2nd for a veteran 1B
Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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Oh back to the tank talk, yippee. Habs aren’t rolling with Primeau and Campbell. We’re not at the fighting for a playoff spot yet but we’re also past the tanking phase. Team has to progress or players and fans will just tune out.


Team has 1 potential elite forward. you need at least 3 to compete. Unless you feel like being mediocre for 15 years again
Nov. 23, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.
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I'd pay a 3rd tops. Just don't see the comps there to justify a 2nd for a veteran 1B


Two years retention. Not saying it would be my first choice, but can’t argue it’s outside the norm.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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Two years retention. Not saying it would be my first choice, but can’t argue it’s outside the norm.


Adin Hill 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 4th.
Desmith 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 3rd and MTL took back a cap dump.

This 1 year of Allen at 2 mill is something I'd pay a late 3rd/early 4th for. Not sure getting 34 year old allen for another year adds that kind of value
Nov. 23, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.
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Two years retention. Not saying it would be my first choice, but can’t argue it’s outside the norm.


Especially when the only non RFA rights goalie I've seen go for a 2nd anytime recently were fluery and lehner

Lehner was coming off a 3rd place vezina finish the previous year, and fluery was coming off a vezina win
Nov. 23, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
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Drop it to a 3rd and we throw in a propsect. Im not trading 2nd for Allen. I rather go get Gibson if we just wanna throw away a 2nd. Stolarz,Riemer,Lyon would all be cheaper. Just need to see Stolarz play more than 4gms.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.
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Adin Hill 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 4th.
Desmith 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 3rd and MTL took back a cap dump.

This 1 year of Allen at 2 mill is something I'd pay a late 3rd/early 4th for. Not sure getting 34 year old allen for another year adds that kind of value


Allen is not exciting…I’d be overwhelmed with indifference if we acquired him.

Hill wasn’t proven at his trade. DeSmith had 1-year and less of track record. Again, none are exciting…nor guaranteed to be better than what we’ve got. But the price, 2nd for Allen with 50% retained seems okay to me.
 
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