Edited Nov. 27, 2023 at 1:32 a.m.
Quoting: aadoyle
Doesnt really matter. Hes not better than Pasta so even with percentages he still will have the same cap hit
The comparison is the players point percentages and skillset
Nylander could see himself just as good as Pastrnak but there's no denying that Pastrnak is better goal scorer which would give him the edge. Either way what he thinks of himself or what others think of him doesn't really matter as much what data they could bring to try to prove that he's just as good or better than Pastrnak or Huberdeau.
If we compare the point percentages from the last 3-years (using the partial years for Pastrnak and to-date for Nylander) prior to signing and what they got this is what we get:
Pastrnak: 1.15 PPG (0.569 GPG) => 13.64 C.H %
Huberdeau: 1.08 PPG (0.304 GPG) => 12.73 C.H %
Nylander: 1.07 PPG ( 0.474 GPG) => ?
So, seeing that at his current pace, Nylander's body of work has him slightly below Huberdeau, he doesn't have much ability to ask for anywhere near Pastrak's cap %. He could maybe argue for slightly higher than Huberdeau's because he scores a lot more goals, so perhaps he argues for 12.73% of 88M = 11.2024M. That being said that doesn't mean the Leafs can afford that so if he wants that he'll probably have to seek it elsewhere. The Leafs need to be aware of
Marner (1.26 PPG (0.409 GPG)) who could easily demand for a much larger cap % than Pastrnak (maybe Panarin's 14.29% would be Marner's camps ask), but even if we just use Pastrnak's 13.64% of 92M that's 12.5488M (at 14.29% = 13.1468M). So, it's pretty clear that the Leafs need to sign Nylander (if possible) at a cap hit % below Huberdeau's. Just looking at some of the guys that have similar point percentage to Nylander now, I found that
Gaudreau had 1.07 PPG (0.370) => 11.82 C.H % (caveat: signed during a flat cap and he actually hit free agency, although I think Treliving offered him a slightly higher AAVx8 at the last minute). That would give Nylander a 10.4016M cap hit.
So, I wouldn't rule out a 10.4-11.2M cap hit for Nylander but it's more than likely that Toronto can't afford to give him anything in that upper range. Like you said, 10Mx8 or Huberdeau's 10.5M (or in that range) is more than likely.
Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
If Nylander out points Marner this year, there's no chance that he'll take a contract less than Marner's current contract. Because we all know Marner will be seeking a raise too.
He might push for more, but look how much Marner could demand, so the Leafs are more than likely not going to give him more than Marner's current contract unless the Leafs sign him in free agency after extending Marner at a team-friendly deal (below 12M-although 12.5M could be considered a discount). Only then he might get 11-11.25MX7 from Toronto, but likely he will go to some other team. It would suck to lose Nylander but if he wants a really huge cap hit then the best thing for him and the Leafs would be to part ways.
Csick did and ACGM where the Leafs pay Nylander 11M and Marner 12.5M and it's not pretty. I won't say that the Leafs won't pay Nylander 11Mx8 or slightly more, but there's no way they do 11.888M. The higher the contract though, the more immovable it becomes if they ever need to trade Nylander even if he continues to put up 95+ points. On an 8-year deal, the Leafs would have a strong offer at 10M and at 10.6M, which would be the equivalent of him getting 11.25Mx7 in FA, then signing a 6Mx1 deal at 34.