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Rebuild

Created by: BluesReport18
Team: 2024-25 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2023
Published: Nov. 29, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This team is so inconsistent and needs to pick a direction. This is what a rebuild could look like including offseason moves and moves from the previous year/TDL.

I don't think they will ever fully tank but they should at least sell high on some players before it is too late.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$1,000,000
2$800,000
2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,500,000
1$900,000
2$900,000
2$3,000,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
1$900,000
3$2,000,000
1$2,000,000
1$800,000
4$5,000,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Edstrom, David
  2. Hague, Nicolas
  3. Korczak, Kaedan [RFA Rights]
  4. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
  5. 2024 7th round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Deal made at previous trade deadline.
I have proposed this before. The only change based on feedback is I took out a 2nd round pick to ensure the Blues would get Hague.
2.
STL
  1. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
  2. 2025 7th round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Deal made at 23-24' TDL. Scandella extends in Toronto for cheap.
3.
STL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Blues move out Hayes so they can play more prospects and Boston gets an extremely cheap middle 6 center.
BOS
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($1,750,000 retained)
4.
STL
  1. Oshie, T.J.
  2. 2025 1st round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Pick is top 5 protected.
Washington upgrades from Oshie to Saad and the Blues get out of an extra year on the Saad deal. Oshie likely goes to LTIR at some point for the Blues.

Alexandrov needs a change of scenery and Washington could use the center depth so he is added in as well.
5.
STL
  1. 2024 6th round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Edited trade as the other was turned down lol
6.
STL
  1. Drury, Jack [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 4th round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Deal made at 23-24' TDL
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the TOR
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CAR
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Logo of the VAN
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Logo of the CBJ
2025
Logo of the STL
Logo of the WSH
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Logo of the BOS
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Logo of the STL
Logo of the TOR
2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,500,000$82,101,649$0$412,500$5,398,351
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$8,125,000$8,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
LW
RFA - 2
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA
$950,000$950,000
C
RFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$2,294,150$2,294,150
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA

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Nov. 29, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Bruins not interested in Hayes at that number
Nov. 29, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Caps decline this rather quickly, especially if Oshie is likely to go to LTIR. Saad isn't playing well enough this year to warrant a 1st round pick from DC and the Capitals have enough middle six forwards as it is. The Caps have plenty of cap space right now so there's no reason to dump Oshie and he'd just use his NTC to block it anyway, since he wants to spend the rest of his career in Washington.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Canucks pass.Hoggys a keeper.IMHO.
Nov. 29, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Canucks aren’t doing that
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Can’t see the Canucks doing that, it’s just a lateral move that doesn’t really make the team better, would rather just stay with what we know has been working instead of taking the risk of changing it.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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Yea that's gonna be a quick no from the Caps
Nov. 29, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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Leddy and Vrana do nothing for Vancouver. Leddy would be a bottom-pairing LHD on this team with 4m X 3 years left. He has a negative value for Vancouver. Vrana is one-dimensional scorer, whereas with Garland he's one of our best two-way guys even with his lack of scoring.

Bortuzzo is the only player I'd be interested in from Vancouver's POV, but you're not getting Hoglander for him. Comparables have him around a 5th in terms of value.
Nov. 29, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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2018 Canucks
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Quoting: remowilliams
Canucks pass.Hoggys a keeper.IMHO.


Quoting: mv21227
Canucks aren’t doing that


Quoting: Epic_Ninja_Dude
Can’t see the Canucks doing that, it’s just a lateral move that doesn’t really make the team better, would rather just stay with what we know has been working instead of taking the risk of changing it.


No need for Bertuzzi as 3rd pair D.
Leddy is past his best due date.
Overall nothing good about the trade.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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Vegas just straight up isn't trading Hague. His value is at an all time high and he's definitely worth more than just a second.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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I don't know that there is a pressing need to get rid of players like Hayes and Saad. They are sort of stop gap players who are fulfilling their role Their term is probably short enough that they would be out or pending ufas for our next contention window. In terms of making spots on the roster, I think that clearing out vrana and Kapanen (or even Buchnevich if someone overpayed) should be enough for the amount of prospects we have contending to break roster.

Bolduc and Dean should get shots if they start to pick things up after a slow start in the AHL, but beyond that I don't know that twe have really any other NHL ready prospects yet.

If the goal is to go full rebuild you probably have to sell Kyrou and Thomas at some point too, because we would honestly probably be giving up on being competitive for their primes (per Armstrongs own words.) While the idea of drafting in the basement is always super enticing, a half to full decade of basement dwelling sounds a lot less fun. I think that there is a legitmate shot to sneak into the playoffs this year and while this team is definitely not the same team as in 2019, I dont think that rebuilding is the direction we should go as a small market.
While the mushy middle isn't a spot you want to be in for a long time, I do think that Blues can remain a wild card team throughout this retool and build enough depth to be a Stanley Cup contender. Especially if Robert Thomas keeps developing into 90+ point forward.
Nov. 29, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.
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Leafs would need retention but would accept
Nov. 29, 2023 at 6:17 p.m.
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Vegas just straight up isn't trading Hague. His value is at an all time high and he's definitely worth more than just a second.


Right I told him that it’s going to be prospects, not roster players.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 7:29 p.m.
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Quoting: BDHockey
I don't know that there is a pressing need to get rid of players like Hayes and Saad. They are sort of stop gap players who are fulfilling their role Their term is probably short enough that they would be out or pending ufas for our next contention window. In terms of making spots on the roster, I think that clearing out vrana and Kapanen (or even Buchnevich if someone overpayed) should be enough for the amount of prospects we have contending to break roster.

Bolduc and Dean should get shots if they start to pick things up after a slow start in the AHL, but beyond that I don't know that twe have really any other NHL ready prospects yet.

If the goal is to go full rebuild you probably have to sell Kyrou and Thomas at some point too, because we would honestly probably be giving up on being competitive for their primes (per Armstrongs own words.) While the idea of drafting in the basement is always super enticing, a half to full decade of basement dwelling sounds a lot less fun. I think that there is a legitmate shot to sneak into the playoffs this year and while this team is definitely not the same team as in 2019, I dont think that rebuilding is the direction we should go as a small market.
While the mushy middle isn't a spot you want to be in for a long time, I do think that Blues can remain a wild card team throughout this retool and build enough depth to be a Stanley Cup contender. Especially if Robert Thomas keeps developing into 90+ point forward.


If Brady Tkachuk sign with Blues when he’s 28 years old (as Thomas) UFA, would be nice.
 
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