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I dont care about your Jake Shakes or Crosbys feelings

Created by: gpmack95
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 7, 2023
Published: Dec. 7, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Sidney Crosby is top two greatest player in franchise history. He used his pull to bring back Malkin and Letang, even though they both deserved to come back because several reasons. Jake Guentzel is NOT on that level. You still want to try to win? You start by doing a shake up trade involving him. We did it with Paul Coffey and Mark Recchi. Rutherford did with with James Neal.

Trade Jake, and get rid of Todd Reirden.
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Kyrou, Christian
  3. Marchment, Mason
  4. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
  5. 2025 3rd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. Pettersson, Marcus
  3. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
  4. 2025 4th round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. 2025 5th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Raddysh, Taylor
  2. 2025 4th round pick (NYR)
CHI
  1. O'Connor, Drew
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
4.
PIT
  1. Wennberg, Alexander ($2,250,000 retained)
SEA
  1. Broz, Tristan [Reserve List]
  2. 2026 3rd round pick (PIT)
5.
PIT
  1. Bortuzzo, Robert
  2. Vrána, Jakub ($1,312,500 retained)
STL
  1. Ruhwedel, Chad
  2. 2025 4th round pick (NYR)
  3. 2026 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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22$83,500,000$81,288,333$0$850,000$2,211,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,312,500$1,312,500
LW
UFA - 1
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$0$0
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$758,333$758,333
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$878,333$878,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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Jesus I thought you were gonna trade Crosby lol
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Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:23 a.m.
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Pens don't need a shake-up, they need to improve their PP. They are a top 5 team 5v5.
Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
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Hawks probably decline. Take out the pick back to the Pens and maybe the Hawks consider it. Just don't see them trading Raddysh for a 4th liner and a pick swap.
Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:29 a.m.
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Guentzel alone is worth more than that package from the Stars, but you want to throw Pettersson in there too?

You clearly don't want the Pens to commit to a full rebuild, but at the same time want to trade two of the best players on this team for a borderline insulting return?

Lmao get a grip.
Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Guentzel alone is worth more than that package from the Stars, but you want to throw Pettersson in there too?

You clearly don't want the Pens to commit to a full rebuild, but at the same time want to trade two of the best players on this team for a borderline insulting return?

Lmao get a grip.


You do realize how good Maverick Bourque is, right?
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Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Jesus I thought you were gonna trade Crosby lol


I wouldn't put it past this guy. He's shown time and time again his brain is just a slab of concrete.
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Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: gpmack95
You do realize how good Maverick Bourque is, right?


If it doesn't make the team better right now, it doesn't matter.
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Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
If it doesn't make the team better right now, it doesn't matter.


Going to be hard to get players from a contender. I could SEA being interested because they want a goal scorer -- maybe a Tolvinen Weinberg pick for Guentzel swap?
Dec. 7, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.
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Who watches Pens games and thinks we'd be better off without Guentzel?
Dec. 7, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: gpmack95
You do realize how good Maverick Bourque is, right?


How much overlap is there between him being a top of the lineup NHL contributor and Crosby/Malkin/Letang/Karlsson being top of the lineup contributors though?

Penguins need to be treating every season those four guys are playing well like it's going to be the last, because there's a good chance it is. Can't swap Guentzel's roster spot for Marchment's roster spot on the basis of "well Mavrick Borque might play on our top line in two years" because who knows what this lineup looks like in two years?

In other words:

Quoting: PenGoater99
If it doesn't make the team better right now, it doesn't matter.
 
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