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Team: 2024-25 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 8, 2023
Published: Dec. 8, 2023
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Sabres are going to have to trade some forwards because we have to many. Just not sure if they would be willing to trade couple of their top prospects for superstar young forward like the debricant trade.
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  1. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
  2. Schneider, Braden [RFA Rights]
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Mittelstadt is young forward can play center or wing. He is a playmaker and has proven to be legit top 6 guy and one of the Sabres most consistent forward. He is also very good defensively.
NYR
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey [RFA Rights]
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I think Kaapo could use a change of scenery and hopefully a young Buffalo team can help jump start his career. His only value comes from being high draft pick. If he wasn’t a top pick he wouldn’t have any value.

Sabres need a young RHD to play with power. Clifton seems to be a bust.
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 11:42 p.m.
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Rangers don’t need centers and the difference between Kakko and Mittelstadt is not Schneider lol
Dec. 8, 2023 at 11:44 p.m.
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Not as bad as the Sabres fan from this afternoon who proposed Chytil for a sub .900 goalie, someone who's not even a full time NHLer yet, and a 4th round pick. At least CM provides some value.
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 12:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
Rangers don’t need centers and the difference between Kakko and Mittelstadt is not Schneider lol


That might be true
But to be fair, the deal is really
Mitts > Schneider
So if not Kakko, (who we frankly don’t need to be part of the deal anyways), what would u guys provide instead to even it out?


Idk how this works from your guys’ pov though….
Are u even looking for a player like Mitts?
Bc if not, figuring out the value of him vs Schneider would just be a waste of time (likely arguing), Lol
Dec. 9, 2023 at 12:31 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
That might be true
But to be fair, the deal is really
Mitts > Schneider
So if not Kakko, (who we frankly don’t need to be part of the deal anyways), what would u guys provide instead to even it out?


Idk how this works from your guys’ pov though….
Are u even looking for a player like Mitts?
Bc if not, figuring out the value of him vs Schneider would just be a waste of time (likely arguing), Lol


Dude really just said "mitts > schneider" lmao
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 12:37 a.m.
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Gloves for mitts, pass
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 1:30 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
That might be true
But to be fair, the deal is really
Mitts > Schneider
So if not Kakko, (who we frankly don’t need to be part of the deal anyways), what would u guys provide instead to even it out?


Idk how this works from your guys’ pov though….
Are u even looking for a player like Mitts?
Bc if not, figuring out the value of him vs Schneider would just be a waste of time (likely arguing), Lol


I love Mitts and he's been one of the most improved players in the league the last 2 years but he aint close to a top4 cost control D in value cmon you're dealing in emotional value to the team and fan base because of the turnaround. Mitts aint worth that on the market. It has to do with scarcity for one. Simply scroll up to the subject matter. 'The Sabres have too many forwards'
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 1:58 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:07 a.m.
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Dude really just said "mitts > schneider" lmao


Yeah, 60 point top6 center over 3rd pair RD playing 15min/night
Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:03 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Yeah, 60 point top6 center over 3rd pair RD playing (at most) 15min/night


Never hit 60 points but keep rounding to benefit you
Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:05 a.m.
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I love Mitts and he's been one of the most improved players in the league the last 2 years but he aint close to a top4 cost control D in value cmon you're dealing in emotional value to the team and fan base because of the turnaround. Mitts aint worth that on the market. It has to do with scarcity for one. Simply scroll up to the subject matter. 'The Sabres have too many forwards'


But Schneider is NOT a “top4” defenseman
He’s your RD 3 who gets less than 16min/night in icetime

Sure, the Sabres have a ton of forward talent
But u could say the same thing about NYR with Schneider being stuck behind Fox & Trouba

Difference is that Mitts has proven he can play on our top line
And Schneider is still buried on your guys depth chart
Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:06 a.m.
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Never hit 60 points but keep rounding to benefit you


59pts last year, on pace for 67pts this year
U wanna nitpick over 1 point, go ahead
But it makes u look dumb when that’s your debate point
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:26 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
59pts last year, on pace for 67pts this year
U wanna nitpick over 1 point, go ahead
But it makes u look dumb when that’s your debate point


Lol nah i can't be bothered to debate with a brain dead wall who would actually say Mitts > Schneider
Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:36 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Yet, u can be bothered to continue to post nonsense instead of making a valid point

Hmmmmmm……
Smells like a load of BS to me

Just take the loss dude, it’s fine. Nbd


Ok what do you wanna compare? Your name is AntiAnalytics so I'm guessing anything that doesn't involve points is out of the question. The scouting report has Mitts as a 76 L2 and Schneider as 84 P2. Also Schneider is 2 years younger. So since you started the post you give a reasonable argument why you think Mitts is worth more than Schneider and the difference being kakko.
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:48 a.m.
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Lol nah i can't be bothered to debate with a brain dead wall who would actually say Mitts > Schneider


as an outside source who has no care about whos better between both players, i just wanna say your arguments are dumb.
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 2:49 a.m.
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as an outside source who has no care about whos better between both players, i just wanna say your arguments are dumb.


Thank you. I really do value your opinion...
Dec. 9, 2023 at 3:02 a.m.
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Ok what do you wanna compare? Your name is AntiAnalytics so I'm guessing anything that doesn't involve points is out of the question. The scouting report has Mitts as a 76 L2 and Schneider as 84 P2. Also Schneider is 2 years younger. So since you started the post you give a reasonable argument why you think Mitts is worth more than Schneider and the difference being kakko.


1- NEVER SAID the difference was Kakko, did i ???

2- top4 Center playing at a 60point pace is worth more than a 3rd pair defenseman

I’m not saying Schneider sucks, or isn’t good
But Mitts is proving he can produce regardless of why line he’s put on & who he plays with

And there’s really no argument that can logically be made to say that a 3rd pair defenseman is more valuable than a top4 Center
Dec. 9, 2023 at 3:30 a.m.
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But Schneider is NOT a “top4” defenseman
He’s your RD 3 who gets less than 16min/night in icetime

Sure, the Sabres have a ton of forward talent
But u could say the same thing about NYR with Schneider being stuck behind Fox & Trouba

Difference is that Mitts has proven he can play on our top line
And Schneider is still buried on your guys depth chart


Ya mittens is not something you build around, pass as a target. Second, BS is not a 4D...yet, that's the plan. Thanks anyway
Dec. 9, 2023 at 4:13 a.m.
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Ya mittens is not something you build around, pass as a target. Second, BS is not a 4D...yet, that's the plan. Thanks anyway


This isn’t my ACGM
And if u read through all my posts in this thread,
you’d have seen me question whether or not NYR would even be looking for a guy like Mitts

I never said u guys would do this trade
All i said was that Mitts (at the moment) has more value than Schneider (2C > 3D)
I don’t think that’s arguable

Now, if you’re gonna project out what Schneider will become,
then i suppose that changes things
But we don’t know what either of these players will become
And as easily as u can project an upwards path for Schneider,
I can do the same for Mitts


But like i said before….
If Mitts isn’t the kind of player u guys are looking for,
or u just don’t like him as a player,
then even debating his value vs Schneider is pointless

Although I will maintain, that currently,
the guy playing well in a top4 Center role is more valuable than the guy in the RD3 role playing less than 16min a night
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 4:17 a.m.
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This isn’t my ACGM
And if u read through all my posts in this thread,
you’d have seen me question whether or not NYR would even be looking for a guy like Mitts

I never said u guys would do this trade
All i said was that Mitts (at the moment) has more value than Schneider (2C > 3D)
I don’t think that’s arguable

Now, I’d you’re gonna project out what Schneider will become,
then i suppose that changes things
But we don’t know what either of these players will become
And as easily as u can project an upwards path for Schneider,
I can do the same for Mitts


But like i said before….
If Mitts isn’t the kind of player u guys are looking for,
or u just don’t like him as a player,
then even debating his value vs Schneider is pointless

Although I will maintain, that currently,
the guy playing well in a top4 Center role is more valuable than the guy in the RD3 role playing less than 16min a night


Cute story. Cap & future says no thanks. Go try trading mittens for Wallinder or someone instead lol.
Dec. 9, 2023 at 4:19 a.m.
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Cute story. Cap & future says no thanks. Go try trading mittens for Wallinder or someone instead lol.


Once again….
THIS IS NOT MY ACGM

Holy **** Ranger fans…. TRY READING !
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 4:28 a.m.
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Bc instead of trying to make any kind of intelligent argument to back your point, you’re just resorting to the lowest common denominator responses to troll

Oh well, i tried to have a convo w you, but u were just a jerk
Have a great night. I’m done with you


Aww... did your feelings get hurt.... I tried to make a point and all you could say is Mitts is a top4 (which I think you meant 6) center and Schneider is a 3rd pair dman but not a fair argument when you look at who's ahead of Schneider and the fact he's 2 years younger. Just because Mitts plays on a worse team and gets more opportunities doesn't make him better. Go cry into your pillow
Dec. 9, 2023 at 4:31 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Once again….
THIS IS NOT MY ACGM

Holy **** Ranger fans…. TRY READING !


You: Mitts is worth more.
NYR fans: Either way pass. BS is on our plans, Kakko also. We'd get a lot more than Mitts back for that return.
You: Holy! Blah blah! CaPs cApS. You effin!...
Lol. Go to bed
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 5:11 a.m.
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Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
You: Mitts is worth more.
NYR fans: Either way pass. BS is on our plans, Kakko also. We'd get a lot more than Mitts back for that return.
You: Holy! Blah blah! CaPs cApS. You effin!...
Lol. Go to bed


Not even remotely close to an accurate account of what has been said
Whatever makes u feel better though
Dec. 9, 2023 at 8:55 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Once again….
THIS IS NOT MY ACGM

Holy **** Ranger fans…. TRY READING !


I posted this then fell asleep before I read the comments. I wish I was up to help back you up. That being said from my experience rangers and leaf fans are the most delusional on the site. So that is why I mad the title.
In all honestly it is fair trade. Kaapo has no value at all he has 3 points this season and is a third line player. His draft stock is his greatest value and at this point that is pretty much gone.
I like BS but he hasn’t proved anything more than third pair NHL dman. Can he be more absolutely that is why I was trading for him. But u can say the same for mitts

As for mitts. Over the last 42 games he has been point per game pace. Which started when Thompson got hurt last year. Almost all his points at 5x5. He doesn’t get any first power play time. He also has proved his defensive play a lot. Last game against bruins we were trying to close out the game with lead. And mitts had the most ice time of all forwards.

To say BS is even close to Mitts is just crazy and delusional.
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Dec. 9, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.
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I love this personally
Dec. 9, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.
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I see Rangers fans are still up to their nonsense.
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