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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 3 - Winter Blues

Dec. 25, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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I wonder if it's time to get 12 teams in the World Juniors.
They would have to add an extra day (likely the December 25th - so we would have got hockey today). The top 8 are all pretty good, and even Norway and Latvia are not terrible.
Still keep 8 teams in playoffs.
Dec. 27, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.
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Man what a **** PP lul

I remember when it was almost impossible to get a SHG against us

Good times oh well
Dec. 27, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Leafs in first period great

Second period here you go Sens have some momentum and we will forget defense 2-0 lead gone

Like holy **** that Batherson goal was avoidable with proper defense coverage

This team just cant play a proper 60mins of hockey
Dec. 27, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 27, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
U got to be ****ing kidding me rn

Well this team not only blew a 2-0 lead but gave the Sens their first lead

RIP


But we may have to have a discussion about Rielly-Brodie as recently that pairing has had me concerned
Dec. 27, 2023 at 9:19 p.m.
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Gonna say how many wide open cages we miss now 3
Dec. 27, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 27, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
They started strong then fell apart classic

Forgetting how to play defense in the second ugh, 2 **** PP's leading to 3 SH opportunities UGH, Missing 3 wide open nets UGH, Pulling goalie with 4mins left only down by 1 WHY, Jarnkrok out over Bertuzzi 6 on 5 WHY

And best of all

Jones with the backbreaker goal against sealing the L


Guess its back to Sammy for CAR but 3 regulation losses in 4 games yikes


Now that games out of the Brad for **** sakes get this team some Dman this top 4 aint it

Rielly-Brodie now falling apart and McCabe-Liligren to inconsistent.
Dec. 27, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.
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Top five on the +/-, but on the negative side.
The top five salaries on the team.
Reilly = -3
Matthews = -2
Tavares = -2
Marner = -2
Nylander = -2
Dec. 27, 2023 at 10:23 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 27, 2023 at 11:53 p.m.
Quoting: Messier99
Top five on the +/-, but on the negative side.
The top five salaries on the team.
Reilly = -3
Matthews = -2
Tavares = -2
Marner = -2
Nylander = -2


Not the best night from them but considering the 3 goals allowed its not a surprise as one was PP, one was 6 on 5 and I guess Matthews and Marner were out for the backbreaker.

Rielly though man Rielly-Brodie has been becoming a problem and not in a good way. Might be because they overwhelmed due to the fragileness of the Dcore or something but man not great
Dec. 27, 2023 at 11:54 p.m.
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I really don't understand the strategy of pulling the pulling with over three minutes left, when just behind by one goal.
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:22 a.m.
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I really don't understand the strategy of pulling the pulling with over three minutes left, when just behind by one goal.


People looked into it and basically showed that early pulls result in tying the game more often
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 1:03 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 28, 2023 at 2:32 a.m.
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I really don't understand the strategy of pulling the pulling with over three minutes left, when just behind by one goal.


Yea that to me was a brainfart by Keefe

2mins sure 4mins WHY lul

If we were down by 2 would understand
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.
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Ok I know it’s not the end of the world losing after a 4 day break but we can’t keep losing to crappy teams. Its annoying and it could mean we have to play a better opponent in the playoffs.
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Yea that to me was a brainfart by Keefe

2mins sure 4mins WHY lul

If we were down by 2 would understand


TBH, I would have pulled at 3-4 mins if the Leafs actually had sustained pressure on a shift, like the final shift of Matthews, Marner, Knies... OTT was pend in and that's where I would have pulled to maximize value... Kept Knies and called Brodie to put on Nylander and JT
Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Ok I know it’s not the end of the world losing after a 4 day break but we can’t keep losing to crappy teams. Its annoying and it could mean we have to play a better opponent in the playoffs.


My biggest issue is how LAZY the Leafs were 30 out of the last 40 minutes... You can't win games like that all the time
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 28, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Ok I know it’s not the end of the world losing after a 4 day break but we can’t keep losing to crappy teams. Its annoying and it could mean we have to play a better opponent in the playoffs.


I mean they do it occasionally but it seems to be built in this teams DNA

They dont have the bully gene

Rather lets play down to our opponents and pray. Leafs played 20mins of solid hockey yesterday and then through 40mins let their 2-0 lead slip away with a side of lady luck being a ****

Either way not good as they are now 1-5-2 vs. teams like this 12 points have been bleed so far.

Not blaming Jones for the game but man goal 3 was a backbreaker. First and second are attributed to sloppy plays and defense being a myth to this team sometimes.


Anyways these are their big losses this year notice a theme as I do and its not great lul






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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
TBH, I would have pulled at 3-4 mins if the Leafs actually had sustained pressure on a shift, like the final shift of Matthews, Marner, Knies... OTT was pend in and that's where I would have pulled to maximize value... Kept Knies and called Brodie to put on Nylander and JT


Leafs had sustained pressure towards the end just was to soon to pull him. And Brodie being out on a 6 on 5 **** no lul.


The 6 on 5 unit is Matthews, Marner, JT, Nylander, Jarnkrok, and Rielly no other Dman comes out for it. Occasionally Jarnkrok will switch with Domi or Bertuzzi but thats really it.

Jarnkrok should not be there IMO and instead Bertuzzi but thats just me as hes been way better as of late.


Brodie never comes out for that as hes got 0 offense to give these days hes all defense but even thats an issue now. If I were to swap Rielly with someone on 6 on 5 McCabe would be the guy or a combo of him and Liligren.
Dec. 28, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Leafs had sustained pressure towards the end just was to soon to pull him. And Brodie being out on a 6 on 5 **** no lul.


The 6 on 5 unit is Matthews, Marner, JT, Nylander, Jarnkrok, and Rielly no other Dman comes out for it. Occasionally Jarnkrok will switch with Domi or Bertuzzi but thats really it.

Jarnkrok should not be there IMO and instead Bertuzzi but thats just me as hes been way better as of late.


Brodie never comes out for that as hes got 0 offense to give these days hes all defense but even thats an issue now. If I were to swap Rielly with someone on 6 on 5 McCabe would be the guy or a combo of him and Liligren.


What do you think I was saying... "called Brodie to put on JT and Willy"...

Brodie wouldn't have been on...

But would have put Bert or Knies instead or Janrkrok...
Dec. 28, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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So now the last remaining worthwhile FA RD is gone

But yea keep an eye on WSH

As I got a feeling someone may be moved (Jensen or TVR)
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 7:02 p.m.
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I like Bear, but I’m fine with Washington getting him if they wanted to pay him that much. He might be worth it but I’m not sure
Dec. 28, 2023 at 8:14 p.m.
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I like Bear, but I’m fine with Washington getting him if they wanted to pay him that much. He might be worth it but I’m not sure


Keep an eye on Nick Jensen or TVR

I got a feeling ones getting moved
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 8:15 p.m.
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With Gio coming back I got a feeling Brad's gonna wait and see how the team does before springing his move

To me its 2nd pair RD that needs help but lets see

Also would not hurt to maybe explore adding cheap nice bottom 6 depth to upgrade over Robertson and McMann in terms of defense and stuff.

But yea more options coming by the day

VGK are apparently interested in moving Martinez (ret 50%) and only ask for a 5th done (3rd pair LD)

And with Bear joining WSH Jensen or TVR could be on the move both nice choices

Should be interesting as now it dont just have to be Tanev lul
Dec. 29, 2023 at 1:23 a.m.
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I know we are still a long way from next season, but I'd really love to see Eberle sign a deal with the Leafs
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Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:16 a.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
I know we are still a long way from next season, but I'd really love to see Eberle sign a deal with the Leafs


U could see him happen via TDL as part of a Larsson deal
Dec. 29, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
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Banging a drum that's never gonna be heard it feels like, but can we please give Robertson a real opportunity? Or at least stop writing him off until he gets one? People are so down on him all of a sudden as if he doesn't lead the Leafs LW's in P/60 at 5v5 and All Strengths. Like he just FINALLY got a sniff on PP2 last game and was the only one able to enter the zone clean and got himself into a solid scoring position (was unable to get the shot off, but still). He's taken massive strides in containing the chaotic-ness of his play and has worked on rounding out other areas of his game too. He's a work in progress still, no doubt, but at least we're seeing progress.
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Dec. 29, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Banging a drum that's never gonna be heard it feels like, but can we please give Robertson a real opportunity? Or at least stop writing him off until he gets one? People are so down on him all of a sudden as if he doesn't lead the Leafs LW's in P/60 at 5v5 and All Strengths. Like he just FINALLY got a sniff on PP2 last game and was the only one able to enter the zone clean and got himself into a solid scoring position (was unable to get the shot off, but still). He's taken massive strides in containing the chaotic-ness of his play and has worked on rounding out other areas of his game too. He's a work in progress still, no doubt, but at least we're seeing progress.


Keefe clearly doesn't trust him. I think his time as a leaf is nearing its end
 
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