Quoting: Trickster
The bed is now made with Nylander.
Moving on from Marner is to ensure roster balance so the next few years don't go like the last few.
Do you really want to repeat the same mistakes???
Definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over thinking you will get a different result.
I would like some real input on Marner trade, I have doing it my head for 5 months and I'm stuck due with the direction
Quoting: aadoyle
If they wanted to do that lets be real they would have moved on from Willy first then watched Marner. If they wanted to draw the line it would have been after Matthews extended
As if that was the concern Willy would have not been extended and especially for that amount. Clearly management wants to keep these three around even if they got to overpay one or two of them to do so.
And Marner aint gonna waive so there's no input to be had. Why would a kid from Toronto and who loves playing here go 'yea sure I will waive my NMC lul". And even if he did were getting pennies to the dollar in any deal "basically we lose"
12-12.5m x 8 years is coming and for Brad sign it early and dont wait for him to drop 150 points and demand 13-14m
But yea the change will come via JT retiring or signing for way less thats most likely the plan rn
I don't think it's clear one way or another which direction they'll go with Marner. Nor should it be at this point.
We don't know what this TDL and post season results will be
We don't know what the roster is going to look like next year or how the team will perform with the additions and deletions
We don't know what prospects might prove they can belong (or which show they aren't ready).
Does the team see any playoff success?
Does Marner see any playoff success?
We don't even know what the cap ceiling is going to be for that 2025-26 season
So how are any of us going to sit here today and confidently state which direction the team is going to go with on Marner?
Everyone is knee-jerking off of the Nylander deal...and the passion is great...the comments are great...but let's take a breath here.
We started the off-season with both Matthews and Nylander needing new deals. Both now have them....and one is one pace for 70 goals and the other is on pace for 115+pts...and our first reaction is to complain about it.
It wasn't long ago that we had nothing exciting up front...the post Sundin era when we never had a 1C...when it was 2011 and we were begging for Brad Richards to come here and ended up with Tim Connolly. When that transitioned to a first line of Bozak, Lupul and Kessel and it was exciting just to have a 30 goal scorer....or go back farther to the Harold Ballard days when the team would spend anything on anyone.
We all are obviously frustrated with the lack of playoff success and all have our opinions on what needs to be done to achieve it. But drafting and attracting elite talent seemed like a pipe dream for a long time. I hope we find the right mix that results in magic...but I won't be pissed off at the team for wanting to keep the elite talent or for the elite talent for choosing to get paid to stay