TDL moving Cirelli

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Created by: JTBF81

Team: 2023-24 Tampa Bay Lightning

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2024

Published: Jan. 6, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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While it's probabaly unlikely that Tampa considers moving Cirelli this early in his deal, he would be the most enticing trade piece to add help on the blueline. Colorado seems like a team that may be interested. Tampa adds Lindholm as a likely rental but who knows, if Stamkos walks in the offseason, they may be able to extend him.

Trades

PHI

2024 3rd round pick (TBL)
2025 6th round pick (TBL)

TBL

Duclair, Anthony ($1,500,000 retained)

SJS

Barré-Boulet, Alex
2025 2nd round pick (TBL)

TBL

Lindholm, Elias ($2,425,000 retained)

CGY

Duke, Dylan [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (COL)
2026 3rd round pick (TBL)

Buyouts

Vincent Lecavalier: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Patrick Maroon: $200,000 (20%)

Buried

Philippe Myers: $250,000 ($1,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$83,416,665	$0	$0	$83,335

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hagel, Brandon $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Point, Brayden $9,500,000$9,500,000 C, RW NMC UFA - 7	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 1	Lindholm, Elias $2,425,000$2,425,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Duclair, Anthony $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Jeannot, Tanner $2,665,000$2,665,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Paul, Nicholas $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 6	Eyssimont, Michael $800,000$800,000 RW, C UFA - 2
Motte, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke $800,000$800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	O'Connor, Logan $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Cernak, Erik $5,200,000$5,200,000 RD UFA - 8	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $9,500,000$9,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Sergachev, Mikhail $8,500,000$8,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 8	Byram, Bowen $3,850,000$3,850,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Johansson, Jonas $775,000$775,000 G UFA - 2
Seeler, Nick $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Raddysh, Darren $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Sheary, Conor $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3		Seabrook, Brent $6,875,000$6,875,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
Fleury, Haydn $762,500$762,500 LD/RD UFA - 1		Brown, Logan $775,000$775,000 C, LW RFA - 1
Watson, Austin $776,665$776,665 RW, LW UFA - 1

Jan. 6 at 10:05 p.m.

la_scaloneta

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Incoming Avs fans for saying no. As if Cirelli isn’t one of the best playoff performers in NHL history.

Jan. 6 at 10:16 p.m.

JTBF81

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Quoting: la_scaloneta

Incoming Avs fans for saying no. As if Cirelli isn’t one of the best playoff performers in NHL history.

I mean it may be too much going Tampa's way, but I feel pretty sure that Byram would have to be the centerpiece coming back. Maybe the picks/prospects would need a bit of altering though.

Jan. 6 at 10:33 p.m.

Goalie

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Quoting: la_scaloneta

Incoming Avs fans for saying no. As if Cirelli isn’t one of the best playoff performers in NHL history.

Cirelli @ 6.5 does not bring you back a great developing young blueliner and a first

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Jan. 6 at 10:49 p.m.

donald

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replace the third with Mikhail Gulyayev, there will be a bidding war for lindy

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Jan. 6 at 11:34 p.m.

JTBF81

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Quoting: Goalie

Cirelli 6.5 does not bring you back a great developing young blueliner and a first

Eh, maybe the 1st can be dropped or lowered, but Byram would be needed or there's no deal more than likely.

Jan. 6 at 11:36 p.m.

JTBF81

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Quoting: donald

replace the third with Mikhail Gulyayev, there will be a bidding war for lindy

Tampa doesn't have Gulyayev, so unless they acquire him from the Avs in the Cirelli trade, it would have to be a different prospect if replacing the 3rd.

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Jan. 6 at 11:54 p.m.

SK101

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I just don’t see how cirelli would be worth Byram, and a first+. Maybe a few years ago. Probably need to drop byram

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Jan. 6 at 11:59 p.m.

JTBF81

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Quoting: SK101

I just don’t see how cirelli would be worth Byram, and a first+. Maybe a few years ago. Probably need to drop byram

The 1st can be dropped, but if Byram isn't available, I doubt Cirelli is.

Jan. 7 at 5:01 a.m.

TJTwolf

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Avs decline.

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Jan. 7 at 8:00 a.m.

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MeetYourMakar

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I would do 1 for 1 because Byram is having a down year.

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Jan. 7 at 1:02 p.m.

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I was a Cirelli fan before most, but I'm not sure I'd do Byram for him. If he were making 5M or less it would be a different story, and I feel like the contract will age fine when the cap actually starts to rise, but it's just a tough ask at the moment.

That said, I don't think this is a bad proposal and appreciate that you added Perbix to try and address a need for Colorado (if they were to trade Bo). It's pretty well thought out, but I just don't think it happens.

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Jan. 7 at 1:53 p.m.

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JTBF81

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Quoting: MeetYourMakar

I would do 1 for 1 because Byram is having a down year.

In the end, that could end up being the deal if neither side wad interested in adding.

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Jan. 7 at 1:57 p.m.

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JTBF81

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Thanks for the feedback!

I can definitely see the 1st being removed or lowered going to Tampa, and as far as the secondary pieces, they could also be up for negotiation(if at all included), but I believe that the crux of the trade would have to be Cirelli for Byram. Tampa would need the defensive addition to address the blueline, so I think whether it was the Avs or another team, Tampa would need a #3/4 type RD coming back.

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Jan. 7 at 7:44 p.m.

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TJTwolf

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Quoting: JTBF81

Poor match then. Byram CAN play RD after a fashion. He's a LHD who is much better on his natural side and average to weak on the right.

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Jan. 7 at 9:07 p.m.

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Quoting: JTBF81

Eh, maybe the 1st can be dropped or lowered, but Byram would be needed or there's no deal more than likely.

Can’t see them giving up Bo for cirelli tbh

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