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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 4 - Mid Season Slump

Jan. 17 at 1:17 p.m.
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New thread, last one was at the max page limit

It can be found here
Jan. 17 at 1:52 p.m.
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But yea in the end u really got 3 choices if u reach the 6+ game lose streak mark (When Wood and Evason got fired)

1. Make a coaching change

2. Make a trade

3. Both
Jan. 17 at 1:59 p.m.
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But yea in the end u really got 3 choices if u reach the 6+ game lose streak mark (When Wood and Evason got fired)

1. Make a coaching change

2. Make a trade

3. Both


I’d like to see option 2 or 3. I don’t care one way of the other what happens to Keefe. But a trade would be nice
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Jan. 17 at 2:00 p.m.
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I’d like to see option 2 or 3. I don’t care one way of the other what happens to Keefe. But a trade would be nice


Keefe to me may need to go as how much leash we gonna give him. If this was his second year in the NHL would be going meh its his second year

Hes been here since 2019-2020 and its been good regular seasons and **** playoffs

Were not seeing adversity and hes not adapted. We used to struggle vs. non contenders with him. Now its everyone after the first period lul


Like I get people saying we could not go in with a lame duck and I even argued the same. But after seeing the Canes we could have risked it. As heck would have made firing him easier now lul
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Jan. 17 at 2:19 p.m.
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Duehr has definitely not been great this season, but I saw enough last year to think he’s worth a waiver claim
Jan. 17 at 2:47 p.m.
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Is it okay to say I want the Leafs to be fighting for a playoff spot the entire season? I mean after what happened with Florida, Miami, Diamondbacks etc.
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Jan. 17 at 4:12 p.m.
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Wow. Duehr is on waivers. I'd 100% put a claim in for him, I absolutely love his speed and physicality. I'd genuinely be shocked if he goes unclaimed
Jan. 17 at 4:15 p.m.
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Know a lot of people saying claim Duehr

How about we take Gregor out drop Holmberg down and put Robertson back in the lineup

We seem to have issues getting more than 2-3 goals put the guy with 3 in his last 5 in

Or heck call up Steeves
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Jan. 17 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Know a lot of people saying claim Duehr

How about we take Gregor out drop Holmberg down and put Robertson back in the lineup

We seem to have issues getting more than 2-3 goals put the guy with 3 in his last 5 in

Or heck call up Steeves


Absolutely man, give our guys in the Marlies first
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Jan. 17 at 5:14 p.m.
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Absolutely man, give our guys in the Marlies first


I'm still surprised he and or Bellows aint up yet

Bellows showed improvements and yes its the AHL and this and that but people have been happy with his work ethic

And Steeves seems to be in a rhythm that has gotten other guys rewarded.

Why not give them a shot (more so Steeves then Bellows)

Like the only guy I would be okay outside the Marlies is Perry. As not only would he give the media a distraction but hes a pest, can score, and yea I could see it working
Jan. 17 at 6:13 p.m.
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https://twitter.com/josephdzita/status/1747681175861145720

If this happens then we just need meme's at this point

As this team be a book on what happens lul
Jan. 17 at 7:35 p.m.
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Listening to Kris Versteeg hes not wrong on Keefe or the system in place

And his assessment on Domi and Bertuzzi may be spot on

As his system could be a factor as to why they struggling

Cause these guys just may not be built for his system but could work under a different system like Berube.

Anyways seems to be no clear fav as to what to do with him lul
Jan. 17 at 9:26 p.m.
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One thing that really bugs me is that we sacrificed defensive acumen in a MAJOR way this past offseason and focused more on adding secondary scoring, yet our secondary scoring has also been worse than last year
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Jan. 17 at 10:23 p.m.
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With WSH fans just basically moving TVR or Jensen for a 3rd or lower either of those guys would be interesting options

Jensen's a bit up there in age but is a nice puck mover, good defender, and has some term on his deal.
Jan. 18 at 8:21 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
https://twitter.com/josephdzita/status/1747681175861145720

If this happens then we just need meme's at this point

As this team be a book on what happens lul


Isn't that a big issue with this team though?

They'll win 15 straight, then they'll sh1t the bed for 5 games then they'll win 9-1-0 etc.
Jan. 18 at 9:50 a.m.
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Also, I loved how much of a ghost 97 was on Tuesday, if we are going to turn to the positives
Jan. 18 at 11:30 a.m.
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Also, give Sammy the start tonight...
Jan. 18 at 8:22 p.m.
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Damn. Reports saying that the rumour we were going to trade knies, Mrazek, and 1st(s) for Fleury and Hagel were not only true, but that Dubas agreed to the trade. Shanny vetoed
Jan. 18 at 8:24 p.m.
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Damn. Reports saying that the rumour we were going to trade knies, Mrazek, and 1st(s) for Fleury and Hagel were not only true, but that Dubas agreed to the trade. Shanny vetoed


Wasn’t this known like a long time ago?

Edit: or wait, no, maybe that Dubas agreed is new info.
Jan. 18 at 8:47 p.m.
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Damn. Reports saying that the rumour we were going to trade knies, Mrazek, and 1st(s) for Fleury and Hagel were not only true, but that Dubas agreed to the trade. Shanny vetoed


That would have been a bad move... Knies>Hagel already
Jan. 18 at 8:51 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Wasn’t this known like a long time ago?

Edit: or wait, no, maybe that Dubas agreed is new info.


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That would have been a bad move... Knies>Hagel already


We know the talks leaked, we didn't know it was an agreed on trade - or that there was a veto. Explains the power grab this off season

Boy I don't know if I'd put Knies over Hagel right now. He has been struggling
Jan. 18 at 8:52 p.m.
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We know the talks leaked, we didn't know it was an agreed on trade - or that there was a veto. Explains the power grab this off season

Boy I don't know if I'd put Knies over Hagel right now. He has been struggling


I mean in general, Knies is the better player...

That's like saying Armia>Stutzle right now bc Stutzle is struggling (sure that gap is bigger but you get the point)
Jan. 18 at 8:59 p.m.
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I mean in general, Knies is the better player...

That's like saying Armia>Stutzle right now bc Stutzle is struggling (sure that gap is bigger but you get the point)


Boy I really don't know about that comparison
Jan. 18 at 9:01 p.m.
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Boy I really don't know about that comparison


Just bc a player is struggling (mostly bc he's getting 10 mins a night), doesn't mean they are worse than another player who isn't...
Jan. 18 at 9:10 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 18 at 9:29 p.m.
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We know the talks leaked, we didn't know it was an agreed on trade - or that there was a veto. Explains the power grab this off season

Boy I don't know if I'd put Knies over Hagel right now. He has been struggling


I was begging for the Leafs to get Hagel but TBL gave up 2 1sts for him and I dont blame em

That guy in our top 9 would have been awesome

Rn Hagel is better thats pretty much it in comparison to Knies agreed.

I think Knies has the potential to be a solid PF for us but rn man he looks like he may need a day in the pressbox just recollect himself. But considering he was in the NCAA last year im in no hurry to see how he develops

And then when we look at Hagel's extension its kind of good we didnt do the move as probs would be 7m here lul
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