SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Three team trade

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2023-24 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2024
Published: Jan. 20, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Just an idea based on

(1) some scenarios about similar trades posted between BOS, CGY and NJD

(2) Recent feedback that Calgary wants NHL ready players instead of futures back for their UFAs.

Can leave it to CGY, BOS, LAK fans to fill in gaps with picks or other pieces if necessary.

----

BOS Gives: Ullmark, Geekie, $2.4m ($1.2m x 2)
BOS Gets: Lindholm, Turcotte, Vladar, $3.6m

CGY Gives: Hanifin, Lindholm, Greer, Vladar, $4.9m
CGY Gets: Dubois, Spence

LAK Gives: Dubois, Spence, Turcotte, $1.2m
LAK Gets: Ullmark, Hanifin, Geekie, Greer, $4.9m

----

Anything good here? How would you change?

(PS I am a Devils fan)
Trades
1.
2.
LAK
  1. Geekie, Morgan
  2. Ullmark, Linus ($1,212,500 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
Termination Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
2025
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
2026
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$76,526,667$0$4,712,500$6,973,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$4,200,000$4,200,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$875,000$875,000
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,675,000$1,675,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
-$1,237,500-$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$3,150,000$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,787,500$3,787,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$4,125,000$4,125,000
LD
UFA - 8
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$5,875,000$5,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 2

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jan. 20 at 7:30 a.m.
#1
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2020
Posts: 2,589
Likes: 1,687
When you've already got one underperforming Quebecer on a massive albatross of a contract, why not GO OUT & GET ONE MORE? WOOOOOO!!!
Jan. 20 at 8:18 a.m.
#2
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 41,864
Likes: 19,001
Quoting: SupremeBone
When you've already got one underperforming Quebecer on a massive albatross of a contract, why not GO OUT & GET ONE MORE? WOOOOOO!!!


If Calgary wants NHL players instead of picks and prospects…Dubois would be pretty good get. Add in all their young forwards and add a dman or two…could be deep forward bunch.

Huberdeau - Dubois - Sharangovich
Zary - Kadri - Coronato
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Honzek - Ruzicka - Pospisil

UFA - Weegar
Solovyov - Andersson
Kuznetsov - Spence

Markstrom
Wolf
Jan. 20 at 8:28 a.m.
#3
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 41,864
Likes: 19,001
Quoting: NHLfan10506
If Calgary wants NHL players instead of picks and prospects…Dubois would be pretty good get. Add in all their young forwards and add a dman or two…could be deep forward bunch.

Huberdeau - Dubois - Sharangovich
Zary - Kadri - Coronato
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Honzek - Ruzicka - Pospisil

UFA - Weegar
Solovyov - Andersson
Kuznetsov - Spence

Markstrom
Wolf


Left side of blueline would need some work. They may match up well with Islanders, who need a forward, have little cap space or assets and have to pay Dobson, Romonov and Bolduc in the following off-season. Mangiapane for Romonov…Dube for Bolduc…something.
Jan. 20 at 9:07 a.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 4,657
Likes: 1,541
Can’t imagine DuBois saying yes to a deal to Calgary.

Also, struggling to see LA giving up on DuBois even though that deal looks bad right now.
NHLfan10506 liked this.
Jan. 20 at 9:40 a.m.
#5
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2020
Posts: 2,589
Likes: 1,687
Quoting: NHLfan10506
If Calgary wants NHL players instead of picks and prospects…Dubois would be pretty good get. Add in all their young forwards and add a dman or two…could be deep forward bunch.

Huberdeau - Dubois - Sharangovich
Zary - Kadri - Coronato
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Honzek - Ruzicka - Pospisil

UFA - Weegar
Solovyov - Andersson
Kuznetsov - Spence

Markstrom
Wolf

Even if I assume they want NHLers in return, I still don't imagine they'd be keen to increase their commitment to underperforming, defensively-suspect Fs to 19mil for another 7.5 years while ALSO trading away their two most valuable pieces of tradebait (each of which can likely return a 1st+) while only getting Jordan Spence in return.
NHLfan10506 and LPProductions liked this.
Jan. 20 at 9:59 a.m.
#6
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 20,044
Likes: 8,959
PLD who wanted out of Peg for bright lights, big city, big market getting traded to Calgary after signing long term deal before his NMC kicks in next year would be effing hilarious.

Doubt Calgary would want the malcontent though.
NHLfan10506 liked this.
Jan. 20 at 10:06 a.m.
#7
First round bust
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 444
Quoting: NHLfan10506
If Calgary wants NHL players instead of picks and prospects…Dubois would be pretty good get. Add in all their young forwards and add a dman or two…could be deep forward bunch.

Huberdeau - Dubois - Sharangovich
Zary - Kadri - Coronato
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Honzek - Ruzicka - Pospisil

UFA - Weegar
Solovyov - Andersson
Kuznetsov - Spence

Markstrom
Wolf


What makes PLD a good player this season? He still has 7 x $8.5M owed to him after this season. He has a career high of 63P, and 28G. He is on pace for an 18G, 38P season.

He could rebound, like he did after his first season in WPG, but why take on the risk and do the Kings a favor? That's the same reason no one will be taking Meier off NJ's hands until he plays himself out of this rut.
Jan. 20 at 11:45 a.m.
#8
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 41,864
Likes: 19,001
Quoting: Bast
What makes PLD a good player this season? He still has 7 x $8.5M owed to him after this season. He has a career high of 63P, and 28G. He is on pace for an 18G, 38P season.

He could rebound, like he did after his first season in WPG, but why take on the risk and do the Kings a favor? That's the same reason no one will be taking Meier off NJ's hands until he plays himself out of this rut.


Meier has been hurt all year (our whole team has!). I am confident he will be fine in long-run.

Would let LAK or CBJ or WPG fans respond on Dubois...not my specialty.
Jan. 20 at 12:00 p.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 1,669
Quoting: Bast
What makes PLD a good player this season? He still has 7 x $8.5M owed to him after this season. He has a career high of 63P, and 28G. He is on pace for an 18G, 38P season.

He could rebound, like he did after his first season in WPG, but why take on the risk and do the Kings a favor? That's the same reason no one will be taking Meier off NJ's hands until he plays himself out of this rut.

When you focus on just G and A yeah numbers aren’t great at all but you’re not factoring the players he’s with.

A rookie in laffy and a fringe NHLer. When he was with fiala he scored.
Jan. 20 at 3:25 p.m.
#10
First round bust
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 444
Quoting: KINGS67
When you focus on just G and A yeah numbers aren’t great at all but you’re not factoring the players he’s with.

A rookie in laffy and a fringe NHLer. When he was with fiala he scored.


So if you had a do-over, would you sign PLD to that contract again?

Personally, I would be more interested in Danault than PLD from a CGY perspective.
Jan. 20 at 3:41 p.m.
#11
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 1,669
Quoting: Bast
So if you had a do-over, would you sign PLD to that contract again?

Personally, I would be more interested in Danault than PLD from a CGY perspective.

Yes I would. It sucks losing Vilardi but I get why he was in the deal.

Beginning of the season kings had no doubt top 3 down the middle and probably still do. They got rocked by EDM in back to back years and partially due to not deep enough down the middle. Lizotte 3C that’s ridiculous.

Danault is really fun to watch. Glad kings have him.
Bast liked this.
Jan. 21 at 4:28 p.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 4,657
Likes: 1,541
Quoting: KINGS67
Yes I would. It sucks losing Vilardi but I get why he was in the deal.

Beginning of the season kings had no doubt top 3 down the middle and probably still do. They got rocked by EDM in back to back years and partially due to not deep enough down the middle. Lizotte 3C that’s ridiculous.

Danault is really fun to watch. Glad kings have him.


If the Kings wanted a redo in the offseason, Boston and them actually fit reasonable well with an Ullmark and other considerations for PLD without having retention issues

Boston should rather have PLD than Lindholm and my guess is PLD might actually consider Boston because of the opportunity to play on the same line as Pasta.

I’d be curious if LA would be on Ullmark’s NTC list
Jan. 21 at 5:55 p.m.
#13
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 1,669
Quoting: Celtics21
If the Kings wanted a redo in the offseason, Boston and them actually fit reasonable well with an Ullmark and other considerations for PLD without having retention issues

Boston should rather have PLD than Lindholm and my guess is PLD might actually consider Boston because of the opportunity to play on the same line as Pasta.

I’d be curious if LA would be on Ullmark’s NTC list

If that were ever the case to trade him. BOS adds more pieces.

I’d think ullmark would waive
Jan. 21 at 6:10 p.m.
#14
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 41,864
Likes: 19,001
Quoting: KINGS67
If that were ever the case to trade him. BOS adds more pieces.

I’d think ullmark would waive


In an Ullmark for PLD scenario, I’d think Bruins would have to add a considerable amount. Young top-6 centers generally carry a lot more trade value than goalies.

PLD for Ullmark, Lysell, Kuntar
PLD for Ullmark, Geekie, pick
PLD for Ullmark, Lohrei, Farinacci

Don’t know what LAK wants but these seem in range
KINGS67 liked this.
Jan. 21 at 6:43 p.m.
#15
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 4,657
Likes: 1,541
Quoting: NHLfan10506
In an Ullmark for PLD scenario, I’d think Bruins would have to add a considerable amount. Young top-6 centers generally carry a lot more trade value than goalies.

PLD for Ullmark, Lysell, Kuntar
PLD for Ullmark, Geekie, pick
PLD for Ullmark, Lohrei, Farinacci

Don’t know what LAK wants but these seem in range


The open question is PLD viewed in the same light as he was when he signed the contract,. My guess is no, but I agree they’d have to add if they went this direction.

Jonathan Huberdeau was once the primary return for Tkachuck. I wouldn’t take him for free at this point, PLD is not near that point, but I’d argue his value in a trade has taken a significant hit.
Jan. 21 at 7:00 p.m.
#16
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 41,864
Likes: 19,001
Quoting: Celtics21
The open question is PLD viewed in the same light as he was when he signed the contract,. My guess is no, but I agree they’d have to add if they went this direction.

Jonathan Huberdeau was once the primary return for Tkachuck. I wouldn’t take him for free at this point, PLD is not near that point, but I’d argue his value in a trade has taken a significant hit.


First year with new team…probably not an 80-pt center, but I think his stick goes up from here. Maybe good time to buy if made available.

But in general…a young 60-pt center will usually have a lot more value than a rental goalie…even if they are a bit overpaid. I think Bruins would have to part with another worthwhile piece. And maybe ask LAK to eat $1m off AAV if that piece hurts (like Phil Kessel outta Toronto deal).
KINGS67 liked this.
Jan. 21 at 8:48 p.m.
#17
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 4,657
Likes: 1,541
Quoting: NHLfan10506
First year with new team…probably not an 80-pt center, but I think his stick goes up from here. Maybe good time to buy if made available.

But in general…a young 60-pt center will usually have a lot more value than a rental goalie…even if they are a bit overpaid. I think Bruins would have to part with another worthwhile piece. And maybe ask LAK to eat $1m off AAV if that piece hurts (like Phil Kessel outta Toronto deal).


I believe they keep him for a while and won’t make a move.
Jan. 21 at 8:55 p.m.
#18
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 41,864
Likes: 19,001
Quoting: Celtics21
I believe they keep him for a while and won’t make a move.


zzzzzz….(yawn)…zzz

Much less interesting for ACGM

(But I agree)
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll