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Same Shhh Different Year

Created by: ryanfiore
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2024
Published: Jan. 24, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
2.
PIT
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Graves, Ryan ($1,125,000 retained)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2025 5th round pick (PIT)
3.
4.
PIT
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (COL)
ARI
  1. Nieto, Matt
  2. Smith, Reilly
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$80,129,342$0$0$3,370,658
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2

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Jan. 24 at 1:47 p.m.
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sens and yotes decline
Jan. 24 at 1:47 p.m.
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Staios career would be over.
Jan. 24 at 1:56 p.m.
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Jesus christ what kind of collateral does Dubas have over Staios here?? That trade is atrocious
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Jan. 24 at 1:58 p.m.
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AZ easy easy pass they are not trading crouse - and that return doesnt get a callback
Jan. 24 at 2:00 p.m.
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Canucks pass. Ottawa and Arizona are likely insulted by those offers
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Jan. 24 at 2:22 p.m.
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So Ottawa gives up a 1D and the higher 3rd for a 5th and a player they wouldn't even want. Seems good.


Far and away the worst Chychrun trade I've seen on here, and there have been some real stinkers
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Jan. 24 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: TkachukNorris79
Jesus christ what kind of collateral does Dubas have over Staios here?? That trade is atrocious


Arguably the Sens get less for Chychrun than the Pens get for Joseph lmao
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Jan. 24 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: TkachukNorris79
Jesus christ what kind of collateral does Dubas have over Staios here?? That trade is atrocious


Y'all are just a bunch of negative people. No trade ever satisfies anyone. Y'all act like Dubas didn't trade a bunch of ****ty players to get Erik Karlsson. Sometimes it's not about getting kick ass talent back. Sometimes you need to shed cap space.
Jan. 24 at 2:54 p.m.
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Y'all are just a bunch of negative people. No trade ever satisfies anyone. Y'all act like Dubas didn't trade a bunch of ****ty players to get Erik Karlsson. Sometimes it's not about getting kick ass talent back. Sometimes you need to shed cap space.


Jakob Chychrun is not a cap dump lmao.
Jan. 24 at 3:10 p.m.
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Jakob Chychrun is not a cap dump lmao.


Then why on Earth are they looking to trade him?
Jan. 24 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: ryanfiore
Then why on Earth are they looking to trade him?


Please directly link me to your source that says "The Ottawa Senators are actively trying to trade Jakob Chychrun", I would love to see it
Jan. 24 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: emoprettyboy
Please directly link me to your source that says "The Ottawa Senators are actively trying to trade Jakob Chychrun", I would love to see it


Do you not read the NHL Trade Rumors???
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Jan. 24 at 4:03 p.m.
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Quoting: ryanfiore
Do you not read the NHL Trade Rumors???


LOL you're talking to people who follow the sens more than you.

His cap hit is $4.6M for another 1.5 years, and he's a Top pair defenseman. You think he's a cap dump?? Come on man.
Jan. 24 at 8:16 p.m.
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The irony that trading for EK65 will have broken 2 franchises
Jan. 25 at 10:12 a.m.
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Quoting: ryanfiore
Do you not read the NHL Trade Rumors???


oh well if the RUMOURS say so???? the source is literally "idk that's what people are saying I think" and you think that's fact? come on, surely you're not actually this unserious of a person
Jan. 25 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: emoprettyboy
oh well if the RUMOURS say so???? the source is literally "idk that's what people are saying I think" and you think that's fact? come on, surely you're not actually this unserious of a person


I’m just saying it’s possible they could move him. He’s on almost all the trade bait lists. And the lists are pretty consistent with each other.
Jan. 25 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: emoprettyboy
Please directly link me to your source that says "The Ottawa Senators are actively trying to trade Jakob Chychrun", I would love to see it


https://x.com/louiebellina/status/1745184232249450794?s=46&t=V4uoFrFMTMGh8TEf14gvPA

https://x.com/lalimesmartian/status/1747695085091774523?s=46&t=V4uoFrFMTMGh8TEf14gvPA
Jan. 25 at 10:38 a.m.
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Quoting: ryanfiore
https://x.com/louiebellina/status/1745184232249450794?s=46&t=V4uoFrFMTMGh8TEf14gvPA

https://x.com/lalimesmartian/status/1747695085091774523?s=46&t=V4uoFrFMTMGh8TEf14gvPA


oh I'm SO excited that you used the Lalime's Martian tweet. also that one from the Rangers guy is just saying "we want him", that's nothing real. Chychrun was directly asked about the rumours that he wants out, his exact, verbatim response was "I think it's ridiculous. I don't think it's based off anything." and "it's people shooting darts at a board and hoping they hit" and "to act like they have their sources is a joke"

and from a management side, Staios literally just held a press conference, and when asked about Chychrun being in trade rumours, his exact quote was "I'm disappointed that his name's out there"

but your source for him wanting out and management wanting to get rid of him is "but the rumours!"

come on man, surely you're not actually suggesting those are legitimate sources
Jan. 26 at 12:38 a.m.
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Quoting: emoprettyboy
oh I'm SO excited that you used the Lalime's Martian tweet. also that one from the Rangers guy is just saying "we want him", that's nothing real. Chychrun was directly asked about the rumours that he wants out, his exact, verbatim response was "I think it's ridiculous. I don't think it's based off anything." and "it's people shooting darts at a board and hoping they hit" and "to act like they have their sources is a joke"

and from a management side, Staios literally just held a press conference, and when asked about Chychrun being in trade rumours, his exact quote was "I'm disappointed that his name's out there"

but your source for him wanting out and management wanting to get rid of him is "but the rumours!"

come on man, surely you're not actually suggesting those are legitimate sources


All I’m saying is anything is possible. Are they legit sources? Maybe not. And yeah I could be wrong. I’m just going off of what’s been going through the grapevine. Would management really come out and say they’re looking to move him? Unlikely. It might not happen. Maybe it will. Either way, I don’t think we should completely doubt it.
Jan. 26 at 6:49 a.m.
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All I’m saying is anything is possible. Are they legit sources? Maybe not. And yeah I could be wrong. I’m just going off of what’s been going through the grapevine. Would management really come out and say they’re looking to move him? Unlikely. It might not happen. Maybe it will. Either way, I don’t think we should completely doubt it.


“anything is possible” is not AT ALL what you were saying, but obviously you realized that you were wrong about there being legit sources that the team and player actively want to part ways
Jan. 27 at 5:12 a.m.
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“anything is possible” is not AT ALL what you were saying, but obviously you realized that you were wrong about there being legit sources that the team and player actively want to part ways


That is exactly where I was going. I did this trade proposal knowing full well that whatever I sent it get Chychrun was going to be criticized by people like you because no one on here ever has anything nice to say. That being said, you asked me for sources, I have you the sources I saw. Legit or not, I gave you what you asked for. Isn’t the whole point of these trades, “anything is possible?” In the end, it’s just a proposal and if you’re so sure it won’t happen, then you should have nothing to worry about so why go out of your way to argue with me?
Jan. 27 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: ryanfiore
That is exactly where I was going. I did this trade proposal knowing full well that whatever I sent it get Chychrun was going to be criticized by people like you because no one on here ever has anything nice to say. That being said, you asked me for sources, I have you the sources I saw. Legit or not, I gave you what you asked for. Isn’t the whole point of these trades, “anything is possible?” In the end, it’s just a proposal and if you’re so sure it won’t happen, then you should have nothing to worry about so why go out of your way to argue with me?


I see somebody say something as ridiculous "Chychrun is a cap dump" and can't help but correct em, sue me
Jan. 27 at 11:36 a.m.
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I see somebody say something as ridiculous "Chychrun is a cap dump" and can't help but correct em, sue me


I know it sounds wild. I’m aware. That’s how I interpreted it.
 
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