Deal breaker is probably going to be that Krug contract.

The deal breaker is most likely Krug himself.

Maybe not. In this case he would be going home. Maybe he would waive his no trade. He would also be going to a winning team.

Detroit and Boston are the only two places I could see him waiving for, but who knows what goes through Krug's head.

Same, so maybe it works. And it isn’t unlike Yzerman to make this move (similar to Petry) only Hindrance might be the fact that they have Edvinsson on the cusp.

Even so, the Blues should want nothing to do with this.

I agree. I am not as big of Krug hater as most people. Sure he is overpayed, but he shows up and competes every night. I'd rather let his contract expire rather than pay to dump him.

You might be right, but I’m curious as to why not.

Technically you’re not paying to get rid of him (other than a 2nd rounder) in this scenario. Montreal is mostly paying for you to get rid of him.

I don’t watch St. Louis and I’m not sure how good/bad Krug is. I know they tried to pay to get rid of him in the offseason and were unsuccessful so it’s definitely something they will try to do again.

Did you clone Maatta? He’s showing up twice lol, how funny

Messed up somewhere lol.

Yeah they tried to trade to upgrade for Sanheim. Matheson is definitely an upgrade over Krug, but then what is Buchnevich covering. The price of upgrading Krug to Matheson, Beck and Armia can't be Buch and 2nd.

No man, they tried to trade Krug for Kevin Hayes (two highly paid underperformers). Nobody is trading Sanheim for Krug. If Krug is moved it’s as somewhat of a cap dump.

In this trade it’s essentially Matheson and Beck for Buchnevich. The 1st rounder is to allow the Blues to move Krug without having to give up their own assets.

It was supposed to be Krug and a 2023 1st + 6th for Sanheim and Hayes (Retained)

Sanheim was not playing as well as he is now last season. If you don't believe me look it up. Pretty well documented that Sanheim would have been in St. Louis.

What is Petry's cap hit in Detroit? How much term does Petry have Left? How can you even compare the 2 of them.

https://www.dailyhockeydose.com/Breaking-Defenseman-Confirms-he-Denied-Trade-to-Philadelphia-280382

I just looked it up and didn’t see that but I’ll look again. That 1st sounds like the price for Sanheim. That would still be Hayes for Krug (trading for each others bad contracts). Krug is a negative asset.

Krug is also much younger. The comparable is Yzerman trading for a home grown guy, older player. I should’ve added some retention on Krug btw. Habs would probably retain 25% on that deal.

I mean I guess. The issue is that the Hayes trade happened anyways for a 6th, which means that the rest of the deal concievably still would have happened if Krug didn't use his NTC.

That would leave us with Krug + the 25th or 29th pick in 2023 for Sanheim who was not playing like he is now last year. Sanheim's value has shot way up from what it used to be.

I kind of disagree. Habs just got 13th overall pick a little over a year ago for Romanov who is a #4 at best, look at the contracts teams are giving to average Dmen. Guys like Sanheim who even at his worst was a good 2nd pairing guy, cost a lot to acquire.

Hayes had no value, Krug is in the same boat.

But the important thing with this deal is the situation with Buch. If the Blues want to keep him long term and he wants to stay then this won’t happen. If they decide they want to entertain moving him I think the deal, at least value wise makes sense and it fills a need for each team.

Disagree with what? I'm not making any claims. This is what the deal was reported to be by multiple sources. I am not the one who saying that should be the value of the players. Briere was garage sale shipping his players and the only reason Krug and first did not get traded for Sanheim, is because Krug didn't want to go to philly.

Disagree that Sanheim’s value wasn’t that high when this deal almost took place (I thought that’s what you were suggesting). My bad if it wasn’t.

It’s my belief that Krug and Hayes were parallels in that deal. Both are still somewhat useful players but they make way too much. They should probably be making 3 mill but they’re making double that.

What’s also interesting though is that Matheson and Sanheim are pretty similar (especially at the time of that deal that fell through). So leads me to believe Blues would have a lot of interest in Matheson.

Fair enough, but the Blues were only giving up one of 3 first round picks then. Which is a pretty big bargain. IMO I would rather keep Buch than have Matheson.

I think in a perfect world so would they but they have to address the defense somehow. Maybe they find another way. Also they do have a lot of high end forwards coming so it wouldn’t shock me if they moved him. We don’t even know how contract discussions are going. We’ll see if they extend him in the summer.

I'm actually of the opinion that the D is not as bad a people think. We have gone basically past month a half playing the top teams in league and win most games or at least stay competitive. Just let the contracts expire. There isn't any rush.