LINDHOLM SETS THE PRICE FOR MONAHAN

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Created by: nilees24

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2024

Published: Feb. 1, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

*Canadiens roster at start of 2024/25 season is captured in the 'Roster' Tab.
**All 6 reserve list signings occur after Trade Deadline and/or during 2024-Off Season.

2024 Off-Season Free Agent Departures:
Tanner Pearson (UFA)
Filip Cederqvist (RFA)
Lias Andersson (RFA)
Mitchell Stephens (UFA)
Philippe Maillet (UFA)
Brady Keeper (UFA)
Chris Wideman (UFA)
***All these players are on Injured Reserve (IR) on the 'Long-Term Outlook' tab.

2024 Off-Season RFA signings:
Kaapo Kakko - (1-year / 2.5 million)
Justin Barron - (2-year / 3.5 million) 1.75 MILL PER YEAR
Jesse Ylönen - (2-year / 1.75 million) 875K PER YEAR
Arber Xhekaj - (1-year / 850k)
Nathan Légaré - (1-year / 787.5k)

Trade Candidates at 2025 Trade Deadline should Canadiens struggle during 2024/25 Season:
Christian Dvorak (UFA) - final year of contract
Joel Armia (UFA) - final year of contract
David Savard (UFA) - final year of contract
Jake Allen (UFA) - final year of contract

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Tuch, Luke	3	$883,333
Guindon, Cedrick	3	$855,000
Davidson, Jared	2	$825,000
Biondi, Blake	2	$825,000
Nurmi, Petteri	2	$825,000
Tourigny, Miguël	2	$825,000

Trades

MTL

Kakko, Kaapo
Rempe, Matt
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)

NYR

Monahan, Sean ($992,500 retained)
Norlinder, Mattias

Additional Details:

*Trade this weekend. Canadiens retain 50% of Monahan's contract.

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)
Sean Monahan: $992,500 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$80,449,583	$1,170,000	$4,302,503	$3,050,417

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Kakko, Kaapo $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW RFA - 1
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2		Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2	Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2
	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Andersson, Lias $775,000$775,000 C, LW RFA - 1
	Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW UFA - 1
	Stephens, Mitchell $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1
	Maillet, Philippe $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1
	Cederqvist, Filip $850,000$850,000 ($50,003$50K) LW, RW RFA - 1
	Keeper, Brady $775,000$775,000 RD UFA - 1

Feb. 1 at 9:26 a.m.

Caniac555

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Lindholm trade return will have no impact on Monahans

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Feb. 1 at 9:27 a.m.

ColonelX

Evans truther

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Norlinder and Rempe basically offsets eachother, don't think we're getting Kakko PLUS something for a middle 6 rental.

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Feb. 1 at 9:29 a.m.

Rags21

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Rangers easily pass

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Feb. 1 at 9:31 a.m.

Rangersfan1309

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Drury hangs up the phone

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Feb. 1 at 9:34 a.m.

hero9154

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Quoting: Caniac555

Lindholm trade return will have no impact on Monahans

This is the correct take.

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Feb. 1 at 9:54 a.m.

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: Caniac555

Lindholm trade return will have no impact on Monahans

Everyone that was looking at Lindholm will now have to look elsewhere, so yes there is an impact on the center market (not just Monahan). The price may not be impacted much but the pressure to meet the original asking prices has increased.

Feb. 1 at 10:00 a.m.

F50marco

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Quoting: Caniac555

Lindholm trade return will have no impact on Monahans

Of course it will....... That doesn't mean Habs will get equal to what Lindholm got. Just means that set the market for centers that other teams will base their offers for center for. I:E if Lindholm was worth that, we are prepared to offer X for Monahan. etc

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Feb. 1 at 10:14 a.m.

Caniac555

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Respectfully - two takes from Habs fans who have a vested interest in wanting a team to over pay for a good center/wing who is on an expiring contract. In reality, Monahan is worth a 2nd and a prospect…which is about the same price every year that good players go for.

These are not binary things. Teams who were looking at Lindholm are not REQUIRED to do anything. They could simply not trade at all, or maybe shift resources to another area of need.

Vancouver paid more to have Flames make this move now, many weeks before the deadline.

I’ve seen some posts on here since last night that are truly baffling. Monahan wouldn’t even return Kakko alone.

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Feb. 1 at 10:18 a.m.

nilees24

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Quoting: Caniac555

Rangers need a centreman. Who's the best available centreman right now and how much are you willing to give up to get him?

Feb. 1 at 10:22 a.m.

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Caniac555

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Respectfully, the Rangers may need a center, but I highly doubt that Drury is going to overpay for anything this year. He’s be better off trading a 2nd for Nic Dowd and moving on.

Quoting: nilees24

Rangers need a centreman. Who's the best available centreman right now and how much are you willing to give up to get him?

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Feb. 1 at 10:24 a.m.

#11

Mr_Canoehead

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Quoting: Caniac555

Lindholm trade return will have no impact on Monahans

Lindholm is the ceiling for the pending UFA trade returns and well above what Monahan could get.

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Feb. 1 at 1:00 p.m.

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ricochetii

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Quoting: Caniac555

I don't stand to gain anything here. It's simple supply and demand. Supply has decreased so demand on the remainder goes up. As I said, that isn't limited to Monahan. Henrique will draw more interest now as well.

I can't control what other people believe the return will be.
I also stated it doesn't necessarily raise Monahan's value, but there will definitely be more teams considering meeting the original price.
Yes, they can do other things. There's always a plan B, C, etc.
That doesn't change the fact that, for every team looking to acquire a middle 6 center, Monahan (et al) are plan A, and the opportunities to proceed with plan A are finite.

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