Leafs land Provo

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Created by: HollywoodHudon

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2024

Published: Feb. 1, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

TOR

Provorov, Ivan ($2,362,500 retained)
2025 4th round pick (CBJ)
2026 5th round pick (CBJ)

CBJ

2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2024 7th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

Add an AHLer/prospect or 2 if needed
(NOT named Minten, Voit, Cowan, Niemela or Hildeby)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$83,406,450	$0	$0	$93,550

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$3,550,000 G UFA - 1
Provorov, Ivan $2,362,500$2,362,500 LD UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Benoit, Simon $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1	McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Holmberg, Pontus $800,000$800,000 C, LW RFA - 2		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Lagesson, William $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 1
McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0) RW, LW UFA - 1
Jones, Martin $875,000$875,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Domi, M.		Matthews, A.		Knies, M.
	Marner, M.		Rielly, M.

Power Play 2
Nylander, W.		Tavares, J.		Bertuzzi, T.
	Provorov, I.		Robertson, N.

Penalty Kill 1
	Gregor, N.	Järnkrok, C.
	Provorov, I.	Liljegren, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Kämpf, D.	Marner, M.
	Benoit, S.	McCabe, J.

Feb. 1 at 11:43 a.m.

CapFriendlysFinest

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Don't think the Leafs want Provo even after this huge retention .
That is also a huge sell low for the Jackets

Feb. 1 at 11:47 a.m.

HollywoodHudon

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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest

Don't think the Leafs want Provo even after this huge retention .
That is also a huge sell low for the Jackets

I don't see how, CBJ paid a 1st and conditional 2nd for Provo with retention. If THIS is sell low - so is what they paid to get him! soooooo.... its even!

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Feb. 1 at 11:47 a.m.

Leafsfan98

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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest

Don't think the Leafs want Provo even after this huge retention .
That is also a huge sell low for the Jackets

TBF, Provorov's young enough (check)
He can handle big minutes (check)
Comes in at under 3 mill with one team eating money and not a 3rd team (check)
He has term (check)
Unlike this trade, CBJ most likely adds a 2nd back (as the going rate for a 1st is 2 2nds and a 3rd, one of the 2nds being early) meaning the leafs can still get 1-2 solid prospects

Feb. 1 at 11:48 a.m.

Leafsfan98

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Quoting: HollywoodHudon

I don't see how, CBJ paid a 1st and conditional 2nd for Provo with retention. If THIS is sell low - so is what they paid to get him! soooooo.... its even!

Provorov's also played worse in CBJ and requested a trade

Feb. 1 at 11:49 a.m.

AndrewPawlack

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if we can get a 1st for Provo thats a W

Feb. 1 at 11:55 a.m.

Bcarlo25

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Quoting: HollywoodHudon

I don't see how, CBJ paid a 1st and conditional 2nd for Provo with retention. If THIS is sell low - so is what they paid to get him! soooooo.... its even!

you know he sucks, right?

Feb. 1 at 12:13 p.m.

palhal

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Leafs don't need a LHD. Don't need Provy and his cap next season, never mind good young assets which are in short supply. So the exchange puts Giordano on the bench and puts McCabe on the right side. Marginally improves the Leafs.

Feb. 1 at 12:14 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: HollywoodHudon

I don't see how, CBJ paid a 1st and conditional 2nd for Provo with retention. If THIS is sell low - so is what they paid to get him! soooooo.... its even!

Because CBJ is poorly managed team. Maybe they though Provo was gonna to elevate them into the playoffs, wasn't that delusional?

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Feb. 1 at 12:24 p.m.

SK101

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

Provorov's also played worse in CBJ and requested a trade

He has not requested a trade and he’s on pace for a career high in points lol

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Feb. 1 at 12:25 p.m.

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SK101

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Quoting: AndrewPawlack

if we can get a 1st for Provo thats a W

With retention the jackets will easily get a first for him

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Feb. 1 at 12:34 p.m.

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CaseyFlyman

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From the last time we had this discussion, for everyone else:

$1.25M retained ~= 5th based on the Orlov trade. $2.4M retained is ~= 3rd based on that? Over two seasons, with the retention slot locked up, probably a 2nd and 3rd (we'll call it 2 3rds).
Provorov the player is a 1st, so overall CBJ would be looking for a 1st and two 3rds in total. Plenty of teams would pay that for a 2nd-pairing D-man for two seasons with some offensive upside at ~$2.4M.

Counterproposal:
TOR: Provorov (50% retained)
CBJ: 2024 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th

Provy is having a decent year on a really bad team, he's better defensively than he gets credit for and worse offensively than he gets credit for. We should be able to get a 1st + additional picks (without sending any out) for a 2nd-pair D-man that eats 23 minutes a night and scores ~0.5 ppg. Think Gavrikov, but slightly cheaper and a little better.

Feb. 1 at 12:58 p.m.

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Leafsfan98

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Quoting: SK101

He has not requested a trade and he’s on pace for a career high in points lol

Wasn't there a report that CBJ is trying to trade Provorov?

Feb. 1 at 1:00 p.m.

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SK101

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

Wasn't there a report that CBJ is trying to trade Provorov?

They are listening to offers on him. Big difference

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Feb. 1 at 1:39 p.m.

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Leafsfan98

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Quoting: SK101

They are listening to offers on him. Big difference

I thought it was a trade request... Remembering things wrong again I see

Feb. 1 at 1:53 p.m.

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aadoyle

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No thank u that guys bad at defense

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