Kent Hughes trades since taking the job

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Created by: Wreckless

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 4, 2024

Published: Feb. 4, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Looking at Kent Hughes’s work since 2022:

Trades Toffoli for a 1st (Mesar) and a 5th
Trades Chiarot for a 1st and a 4th.
Trades Lehkonen for Barron and a 2024 2nd.
Trades Kulak for a 2nd (Hutson, OMFG), and a 7th.
Trades Romanov, a 3rd and a 4th for Kirby Dach.
Trades Petry and Poehling for Matheson (OMFG) and a 4th.
Acquires Calgary’s 2025 1st round for taking one year of Monahan’s contract.
Retains salary on Bonino’s deal at last year’s deadline for a 5th.
Acquires Newhook for the pick we got for Chiarot and a 2nd.
Trades Edmundson for a 3rd and a 7th. Unfortunately he got hurt or that return would have been huge at last year’s deadline.
Trades $4.5mm Hoffman contract (1 year) for $2.3mm of Petry’s salary (for 2 years), Tanner Pearson, and a 2nd, 3rd, and a 4th, all in 2025.
Trades Sean Monahan for Winnipeg’s 2024 1st.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Hutson, Lane		3	$875,000

Trades

MTL

Vanecek, Vitek
2024 3rd round pick (NJD)

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Cap dump.

NJD

MTL

2024 1st round pick (CAR)

Additional Details:

Pick probably 29-32 overall. Basically a second rounder. And we’ll take him back for a 2nd or 3rd round pick in the off-season, if Carolina doesn’t want to keep him.

CAR

Allen, Jake

MTL

2024 3rd round pick (PHI)

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Carter Hart ain’t coming back anytime soon.

PHI

Primeau, Cayden

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The kid needs to play. Would be a feel good story for Philly.

MTL

2025 4th round pick (NJD)

NJD

Pearson, Tanner ($1,625,000 retained)

MTL

2024 2nd round pick (BOS)

ANA

Harris, Jordan

MTL

Zegras, Trevor

ANA

2024 1st round pick (MTL)

MTL

Durzi, Sean

ARI

2025 2nd round pick (MTL)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)
Tanner Pearson: $1,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$83,500,000	$79,155,416	$1,170,000	$4,277,500	$4,344,584

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Zegras, Trevor $5,750,000$5,750,000 C, LW RFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Durzi, Sean $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD/RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Vanecek, Vitek $3,400,000$3,400,000 G UFA - 2
Hutson, Lane $875,000$875,000 LD RFA - 3	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1	Mailloux, Logan $875,000$875,000 ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 3
	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
		Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Feb. 4 at 3:36 p.m.

JeffGorton

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wtf is it with habs fans and loving Zegras so much? Youd give up a top 7 pick for him when everyone in the top 7 has a higher ceiling than him? Hes a high end 2nd line C at best. Barron and a WPG 1st should be the max value for him. And even then, hes not worth it. Hes not the type of player that wins. He'll be average for 20 games, score a sick goal then go back to being average

Feb. 4 at 3:41 p.m.

dgibb10

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I very much struggle to see a scenario where Allen returns a 1st, let alone without retention.

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Feb. 4 at 3:41 p.m.

Billy316

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Its an Impressive Haul for Sure.
Im just hoping he dont blow it
I do like Zegras but the cost is more then i care for
We got enough people in his age group anyways

I do like Zegras , dont get me wrong
That said MTL Media would devour him whole
I feel it would be Drouin 2.0 sadly unless we found a true top 5 NHL Goalie who can bail him out on defensive blunders

Feb. 4 at 3:42 p.m.

mv21227

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There is no chance you’re getting a 1st for Allen, especially with no retention

Feb. 4 at 3:44 p.m.

Billy316

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Caufield is Zegras's Best Friend is why
Personally im good, i'd rather Suzuki's best friend Durzi as he's much cheaper
Both are PP Players who elevate our top guys play but are both defensively questionable.

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Feb. 4 at 3:47 p.m.

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Quoting: JeffGorton

There is no chance I’d give up a top 7 pick for Zegras. All this depends on where we finish in the standings. I’d probably do that with a pick in the low teens though.

He’s still young, and has been playing on a really bad team. He can and will grow. His raw talent is undeniable. St-Louis would get the maximum out of him.

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Feb. 4 at 3:49 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

I very much struggle to see a scenario where Allen returns a 1st, let alone without retention.

Check out all those other Hughes trades listed above. He often finds a way.

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Feb. 4 at 3:50 p.m.

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Quoting: Billy316

Systems, and coaching. He needs to be in the right environment.

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Feb. 4 at 3:53 p.m.

BleedOrange23

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The Flyers pass, they are content with the guys they have in goal. Team could have claimed Prostetov from COL if they wanted to upgrade.

Feb. 4 at 3:57 p.m.

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Edited Feb. 4 at 4:03 p.m.

Quoting: Wreckless

Check out all those other Hughes trades listed above. He often finds a way.

I’d argue all those trades had at least some logic or precedent.

If you viewed chiarot as a top 4 dman (he was handling top 2 minutes), that checks out.
If you view Monahan as a quality middle 6 C, that checks out
If you view Lehkonen as a top 6 forward, yeah that checks out

For Allen to justify the return of a 1st you’d have to view him as a legit top 10-15 goalie option, which seems, outlandish to say the least.

Feb. 4 at 3:58 p.m.

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Quoting: Wreckless

Systems, and coaching. He needs to be in the right environment.

I heard that about PLD 3 times now
Not all players are created Equal

Zegras is Great but undisciplined.
Unless Caufields the dominate personality in their Friendship
I just dont see him setting his Ego aside under his 3rd coach in his Career anymore then he had the first 2.
For the right price then sure i want Zegras
But overpaying for Zegras is too much

Feb. 4 at 4:03 p.m.

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Quoting: Billy316

FIFY. I added Durzi also. Arizona got him for a 2nd rounder last offseason.

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Feb. 4 at 4:04 p.m.

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You’re getting a third for Allen if you’re lucky. And Carolina doesn’t need him anymore. You can keep him.

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Feb. 4 at 4:04 p.m.

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Quoting: BleedOrange23

The Flyers pass, they are content with the guys they have in goal. Team could have claimed Prostetov from COL if they wanted to upgrade.

Except he’s no good. So, um, yeah…

Feb. 4 at 4:06 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

A seasoned top 10-15 goalie option on an affordable deal for one more season would cost way more than pick #29 for two playoff runs.

Feb. 4 at 4:07 p.m.

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Quoting: Billy316

I agree. The question is what’s the right price. Pick number 12 in this year’s draft? Probably the right move for both teams.

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Feb. 4 at 4:09 p.m.

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Quoting: Canesfan21_

You’re getting a third for Allen if you’re lucky. And Carolina doesn’t need him anymore. You can keep him.

We’ll definitely keep him for anything less than a high 2nd. Montembeault is on the table also if anyone prefers to go that route.

Feb. 4 at 4:15 p.m.

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Quoting: Wreckless

A seasoned top 10-15 goalie option on an affordable deal for one more season would cost way more than pick #29 for two playoff runs.

Historically that hasn’t been the case. It takes a top 10-15 goalie to get a 1st.

I’d place Allen somewhere in the 30-40 range of my goaltender rankings for the next 2 years. Historically that’s just not a valuable piece at 4 million dollars.

Especially when you look to free agency and see a guy like DeSmith, who is better, younger, and should cost less money.

Feb. 4 at 4:22 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

If DeSmith has any good, he wouldn’t have had zero asset value as part of two trades this past offseason.

Vanacek last got traded for a 2nd and a 3rd. Where does he rank as a goalie in this league?

Feb. 4 at 4:24 p.m.

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DeSmith not having much trade value is my entire point.

DeSmith had BETTER numbers than Allen, was younger, and had half the cap hit. Kent Hughes was only able to get a 3rd+taking on a cap dump for him.

Vanacek was a 26 year old RFA starter with decent enough numbers. He also got just a 2nd. And I’d argue he ranked quite a bit higher than Allen at that time.

Feb. 4 at 4:26 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

Different dynamic at the trade deadline. It’s an auction market. Allen is best short term option available. No one is close. Everyone else has risk tied to term and cap hit.

Doesn’t have to be a 1st though, could also be a 2nd +.

Once can choose to overvalue goalie stats at their own peril.

Feb. 4 at 4:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Wreckless

Different dynamic at the trade deadline. It’s an auction market. Allen is best short term option available. No one is close. Everyone else has risk tied to term and cap hit.

Allen also has a high cap hit and risk due to his 2nd year of term. I think it’s decently likely that a team may have to pay to dump Jake Allen this offseason if they acquire him

Feb. 4 at 4:30 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

Allen also has a high cap hit and risk due to his 2nd year of term. I think it’s decently likely that a team may have to pay to dump Jake Allen this offseason if they acquire him

That’s where you’re most wrong. Whoever « rents » him this playoff runs, then has a player on a one year expiring contract this offseason. Which itself has asset value. Any decent goalie this offseason will need to be offered more than a 1 year deal. And the cap is rising. Allen’s contract has value on both fronts.

Feb. 4 at 4:33 p.m.

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Quoting: Wreckless

Except he’s no good. So, um, yeah…

Primeau isn't great either......he definitely isn't worth a 3rd. Regardless of what you think about any of these goalies the entire leadership structure of the Flyers has said they aren't buying. They have complete faith in Errson and we are still in a rebuild. So maybe Habs fans should stop proposing goalie trades when we don't want or need one.

Feb. 4 at 4:38 p.m.

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Quoting: Wreckless

I can certainly bet if I offered DeSmith 4 mill for 1 year he’d take it

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