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Okay lets talk EP40

Created by: Caniac2000
Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 27, 2024
Published: Feb. 27, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR Enabled: No
Season Days: 192
Days Remaining: 51
Season Remaining: 27%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $82,038,909
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I've listed this a few here. Do you think there needs to be a tweak here or there, let's hear it. MV21227 who seems to think it's going to take two of Jarvis/Necas/Svechnikov/Nikishin is drunk. Necas will be the only one available. If Canuck fans wanted say, a 2025 2nd conditional that becomes a 1st if the Canes reach the Finals, I think that's something agreeable. I think there may need to be a minor piece coming back for it, but that's just me.
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Koivunen, Ville
  2. Morrow, Scott [Reserve List]
  3. Necas, Martin
  4. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
2.
CAR
  1. Johnson, Tyler ($2,500,000 retained)
CHI
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,490,685$450,000$500,000$9,315
Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$7,750,000$2,058,594
LW, RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$8,460,250$2,247,254
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$894,167$237,513 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,500,000$1,195,313
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$7,350,000$1,952,344
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,400,000$1,434,375
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$762,500$202,539
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,820,000$1,280,313
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$2,500,000$664,063
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$925,000$245,703
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,900,000$770,313
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,400,000$637,500
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$1,800,000$478,125
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,300,000$1,407,813
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,280,000$1,402,500
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,400,000$903,125
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$7,750,000$2,058,594
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,025,000$1,069,141
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,000,000$531,250
G
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,250,000$1,394,531
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$1,675,000$444,922
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$800,000$212,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$762,500$202,539
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 27 at 5:38 p.m.
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Petey is like a top 5 center in the league, and he's only 25. Not to mention you can lock him up for 8 years. You can't see why it would take two of the players you mentioned?
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Feb. 27 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: WN88
Petey is like a top 5 center in the league, and he's only 25. Not to mention you can lock him up for 8 years. You can't see why it would take two of the players you mentioned?


Matthews, MacKinnon, McDavid, Hughes, Barkov, and Draisaitl are all better. He's like 7th or 8th. But it won't take two of the players it mentioned because 1) If he won't sign, the leverage isn't there and 2) it doesn't make sense for Carolina. Need two sides to make a trade. Canes need long term security and Svechnikov offers that. Half the team is expiring so having that certainty is huge. Jarvis is 21 and is just different. He's a 5'10 power forward scoring at a 65 point pace in his junior season. Plus, he can play center himself and is RFA, not UFA, which is big with the mass turnover coming this summer
Feb. 27 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Matthews, MacKinnon, McDavid, Hughes, Barkov, and Draisaitl are all better. He's like 7th or 8th. But it won't take two of the players it mentioned because 1) If he won't sign, the leverage isn't there and 2) it doesn't make sense for Carolina. Need two sides to make a trade. Canes need long term security and Svechnikov offers that. Half the team is expiring so having that certainty is huge. Jarvis is 21 and is just different. He's a 5'10 power forward scoring at a 65 point pace in his junior season. Plus, he can play center himself and is RFA, not UFA, which is big with the mass turnover coming this summer

The leverage is the 30 other teams that would all want to sign Pettersson; this offer gets beat easily. And that’s IF he’s even on the block which I find hard to believe.
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Feb. 27 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Matthews, MacKinnon, McDavid, Hughes, Barkov, and Draisaitl are all better. He's like 7th or 8th. But it won't take two of the players it mentioned because 1) If he won't sign, the leverage isn't there and 2) it doesn't make sense for Carolina. Need two sides to make a trade. Canes need long term security and Svechnikov offers that. Half the team is expiring so having that certainty is huge. Jarvis is 21 and is just different. He's a 5'10 power forward scoring at a 65 point pace in his junior season. Plus, he can play center himself and is RFA, not UFA, which is big with the mass turnover coming this summer


“Need two sides to make a trade”

It doesn’t make sense for the Canucks if two of those top four guys aren’t included. They’ll get better offers elsewhere. If you aren’t willing to pay what it takes then the Canucks will go elsewhere

He’s also better than Barkov and arguably better than Hughes and Draisaitl
Feb. 27 at 5:51 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 27 at 5:57 p.m.
Quoting: MitchJr
The leverage is the 30 other teams that would all want to sign Pettersson; this offer gets beat easily. And that’s IF he’s even on the block which I find hard to believe.


Okay let me ask you this... which team is...
1. Going to be acceptable to EP40 (Probably only contenders)
2. Have the assets to acquire him
3. Going to have the cap space to re-sign him

Carolina, Colorado and maybe New Jersey are the only teams that I can think of
Feb. 27 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
“Need two sides to make a trade”

It doesn’t make sense for the Canucks if two of those top four guys aren’t included. They’ll get better offers elsewhere. If you aren’t willing to pay what it takes then the Canucks will go elsewhere

He’s also better than Barkov and arguably better than Hughes and Draisaitl


He's not better than Barkov Hughes or Draisaitl. That's bias right there.

You're even more delusional if you still thin you're getting 2 of the Canes top 6 for him. He's very good, but everyone knowing he now wants out hurts Vancouver's ability to negotiate. Should have traded him last year when he had term if you wanted that sort of return
Feb. 27 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
“Need two sides to make a trade”

It doesn’t make sense for the Canucks if two of those top four guys aren’t included. They’ll get better offers elsewhere. If you aren’t willing to pay what it takes then the Canucks will go elsewhere

He’s also better than Barkov and arguably better than Hughes and Draisaitl


He's a 7-8 center and asking for Svech and Jarvis is going to go nowhere because the Hurricanes won't want to play ball. It's probably going to be a couple of roster pieces, a decent prospect, a first, and another pick.
Feb. 27 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: seanrushton
Okay let me ask you this... which team is...
1. Going to be acceptable to EP40
2. Have the assets to acquire him
3. Going to have the cap space to resign him


Fair point, do cut the number in half…still 15 teams bidding for a 25 year old superstar. It will get competitive - feel like we went around this merry go round last year - you won’t get Petey without giving up an A++prospect or young player + picks . For the canes, imo that means Jarvis or Svechnikov or Nishkin + then add. Petey would be best player on the canes & won’t come cheap
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Feb. 27 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
Fair point, do cut the number in half…still 15 teams bidding for a 25 year old superstar. It will get competitive - feel like we went around this merry go round last year - you won’t get Petey without giving up an A++prospect or young player + picks . For the canes, imo that means Jarvis or Svechnikov or Nishkin + then add. Petey would be best player on the canes & won’t come cheap


I think the Hurricanes would be considered the front-runner to land EP40 if he got on the market considering their very apparent 2C need, their deep roster pipeline, them being a contender, and them having the cap space

It would probably be Necas+(Nadeau/Blake/Morrow)+2024 1st+2024 2nd+ 2024 2nd at a minimum. I think that Necas would fit the Canucks system better than Jarvis (Necas is probably a PPG player in a different system)
Feb. 27 at 6:06 p.m.
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It would probably be Necas+(Nadeau/Blake/Morrow)+2024 1st+2024 2nd+ 2024 2nd at a minimum. I think that Necas would fit the Canucks system better Jarvis


I have no dog in this fight but that would be nowhere near enough imo. Petey is younger & better than Aho; lots of teams could & would outbid that offer - the chance to trade for 25 year old true #1 C does not come along very often
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Feb. 27 at 6:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
He's not better than Barkov Hughes or Draisaitl. That's bias right there.

You're even more delusional if you still thin you're getting 2 of the Canes top 6 for him. He's very good, but everyone knowing he now wants out hurts Vancouver's ability to negotiate. Should have traded him last year when he had term if you wanted that sort of return


He’s definitely better than Barkov at this point. Very close with Hughes and Draisaitl

Pettersson has put up 100 points, Hughes and Barkov have not. Pettersson is better defensively than Hughes and far better defensively than Draisaitl. He also doesn’t get to pad his points playing with McDavid like Draisaitl does
Feb. 27 at 6:11 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
I have no dog in this fight but that would be nowhere near enough imo. Petey is younger & better than Aho; lots of teams could & would outbid that offer - the chance to trade for 25 year old true #1 C does not come along very often


It's probably not enough but it feels like a good start
Feb. 27 at 6:13 p.m.
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I have no dog in this fight but that would be nowhere near enough imo. Petey is younger & better than Aho; lots of teams could & would outbid that offer - the chance to trade for 25 year old true #1 C does not come along very often


A lot of teams could outbid this but I don't see any true contender with a need for a top-6 center having the pipeline assets to compete with the Hurricanes
Feb. 27 at 6:26 p.m.
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Hawks probably accept
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Feb. 27 at 6:35 p.m.
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He’s definitely better than Barkov at this point. Very close with Hughes and Draisaitl

Pettersson has put up 100 points, Hughes and Barkov have not. Pettersson is better defensively than Hughes and far better defensively than Draisaitl. He also doesn’t get to pad his points playing with McDavid like Draisaitl does


Draisaitl's got 4 100 point seasons... He put up 128 last year. He's better than EP40. Pettersson put up 102 in 80 games, but Hughes had 99 in 78 games last year, a better PPG rate. EP40 is not as good as either player. You then go on to mention defense where Hughes is by far the best of the bunch, and while Drai isn't as good defensively as Pettersson, the gap in scoring makes up for it

Barkov's the best two-way centerman in the game. His ELITE defensive game with his traditional 90 point pace puts him above EP40 for me. Pettersson is closer to Crosby, Aho, and the tier below than Hughes and the tier above
Feb. 27 at 6:40 p.m.
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Sold. Hawks would be very happy w/that trade.
BTW. Nucks fans are insane about EP.
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