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Created by: Matt1567

Team: 2024-25 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 4, 2024

Published: Mar. 4, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

The Devils are 7 points out of the playoffs, with a game in hand on Philly, but I don't see them making it this year. If I was in charge I would look to sell off some pieces and then go fix the teams problems in the offseason, and hope it works.

Sign Mercer to a bridge deal, save some money for the Saros extension, and the Holtz, Nemec, and Hughes deals coming up, bring in some depth skaters and maybe a backup, but I'd let Daws and Schmid compete for the backup spot

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Daws, Nico	1	$900,000
Mercer, Dawson	3	$3,500,000
Schmid, Akira	1	$900,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Toffoli, Tyler		3	$6,000,000
Foegele, Warren		3	$3,250,000

Trades

NJD

2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
2025 3rd round pick (EDM)

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Warren Foegele

EDM

Toffoli, Tyler

Additional Details:

50% Retained at Deadline

NJD

Saros, Juuse

NSH

Vanecek, Vitek
2024 1st round pick (NJD)
2024 2nd round pick (EDM)

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Currently the Devils have the 12th overall pick, and are only 2 points ahead of the Sabres who have the 8th pick, whatever the pick ends up being, as long as it isn't top 2 I'd move it for a goalie.

Vanecek is purely a contract going the other way, could be bought-out or used by Nashville.

For comparison, the Devils traded the 9th overall pick in 2013 for Cory Schneider, a 27 year old goalie who had 2 years left at 4 mil, I think a pick around 10th, a late 2nd, and a contract to make the cap work would be fair.

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$87,000,000	$79,351,397	$1,538,897	$5,950,000	$7,648,603

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Meier, Timo $8,800,000$8,800,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 7	Hughes, Jack $8,000,000$8,000,000 C UFA - 6	Bratt, Jesper $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 7
Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1	Hischier, Nico $7,250,000$7,250,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Mercer, Dawson $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, C RFA
Palat, Ondrej $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3	Haula, Erik $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 2	Foegele, Warren $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW, RW UFA
	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Bastian, Nathan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Siegenthaler, Jonas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Hamilton, Dougie $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Saros, Juuse $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 1
Hughes, Luke $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD/RD RFA - 1	Nemec, Simon $918,333$918,333 ($3,250,000$3M) RD RFA - 2	Daws, Nico $900,000$900,000 G RFA
Bahl, Kevin $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD RFA - 1	Marino, John $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Schmid, Akira $900,000$900,000 G RFA

Mar. 4 at 12:06 p.m.

herzausstein

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Schneider had also never been more than a backup at time of trade with 33 games in a single season and 98 total NHL games prior to trade.

Saros already started 49 games this season for reference. So you are comparing value of a promising rising goalie that hasnt assumed starting workload vs an established 60+ game starting goalie.

Nashville would pass. At the draft, more teams will have interest and capspace.

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Mar. 4 at 12:22 p.m.

villenash

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Quoting: herzausstein

Not to mention Saros was 3rd in Vezina voting in 2022 and 4th in 2023.

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Mar. 4 at 12:39 p.m.

dgibb10

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Quoting: herzausstein

Schneider in the 3 years before his trade:

1st in GAA
1st in sv%
2nd in GSAX/60
4th in overall GSAx

Cory Schneider was already a top 5 goalie in hockey at the time of his trade

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Mar. 4 at 4:29 p.m.

herzausstein

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Quoting: dgibb10

Schneider in the 3 years before his trade:

1st in GAA
1st in sv%
2nd in GSAX/60
4th in overall GSAx

Cory Schneider was already a top 5 goalie in hockey at the time of his trade

12-13 season was a shortened season so he did have a "starters" load at 30 of 48 games i guess but having never carried a large majority of the games of a typical 82 game season. A season high of 33 games doesnt compare to a 67 game a year starter. Backup load vs starter.

Some backup or tandem goalies that fall apart under a heavy workload. You dont know how if he can physically or mentally handle the stress of the increased workload. Etc.

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Mar. 4 at 4:30 p.m.

SwarmChair

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Sure for Toffoli. No need to send Foegele out though. And he’s a UFA so don’t see why Devils take him if they are selling.

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Mar. 4 at 4:30 p.m.

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Quoting: herzausstein

4th in overall GSAx. He was providing elite starter value even in a smaller workload.

Mar. 4 at 4:31 p.m.

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Quoting: SwarmChair

Sure for Toffoli. No need to send Foegele out though. And he’s a UFA so don’t see why Devils take him if they are selling.

Foegele is a part of the value. Price goes up without foegele

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Mar. 4 at 4:31 p.m.

Matt1567

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Matt1567

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Quoting: SwarmChair

Sure for Toffoli. No need to send Foegele out though. And he’s a UFA so don’t see why Devils take him if they are selling.

Cap reasons, and it's not an complete fire sale, rather a retool for next year

Mar. 5 at 3:52 a.m.

SwarmChair

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Quoting: dgibb10

Foegele is a part of the value. Price goes up without foegele

And when he walks to UFA after the 20 game rental is over, what’s the point?

Mar. 5 at 7:47 a.m.

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CD282

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Foegele is top-60 in 5v5 scoring this year, with an 80.00 IPP. Why on earth would Edmonton trade him heading into the playoffs? They're looking to ADD to their roster, not trade guys with similar production.

Mar. 5 at 8:01 a.m.

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Matt1567

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Matt1567

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Quoting: SwarmChair

And when he walks to UFA after the 20 game rental is over, what’s the point?

I only put him in for salary, and then signed him to play on the 3rd line but they could get someone else from FA to play that role if he doesn't work or signs elsewhere. They still get a 1st which is fairly close to Toffoli's value imo

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